10 Things About Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel: The Good, The Better, and The Debated

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Zack Snyder’s “Man of Steel” is a divisive movie among fans. Much like Christopher Nolan’s swan song for “The Dark Knight Trilogy,” it has caused quite a stir, either loved or hated, with few who are in the middle. I am personally of the mind it was a great modernization of the character and his mythos, much the way both “Batman Begins” and “Amazing Spider-Man” took the stories we know and added some reality and humanization to them. Say what you want about the film, though, it was a complete success for WB/DC/Legendary, and has set a fire under DC that has them scrambling to capture some of that shared universal goodness Marvel has been riding for almost a decade now.

What I am giving here is my personal opinion on what was well done, and the much debated destruction of Metropolis and the killing of Zod.

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  • robin de banque

    I thought the movie was a dumb actioner. The Krypton part was a yawnfest. The fight scenes were deafeningly loud and strangely unimpressive and unimaginative.. Cavil had all the charm and personality of a waxwork dummy. Huge disappointment all round.

  • clarkspark

    100% agree and its exactly the way i defend the movie against nay sayers. Its not perfect but in no way does it suck. Its by far, imo, the best superhero movie to date. I’m a huge fan of the marvel studios movies but have watched man of steel more times than i can count.

    Great write up dedpool!

    ‘Release the world engine!’

    • JasOn Vu

      overall it not a BAD movie, but it not a good one. They had our hope up, and shot it down. Since Marvel was doing a KILL streak, maybe DC could pull back. BUT they suck, and now they are going downhill. PLus we normally forget superman – because he;’s a ironic hero. If it was some other dude in tight, i guaranteed there will be no SEQUEL. … I’m not even pump for the sequel, their nothing left to offer, It normally batman and superman that all DC can throw out at us.

    • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

      Thank you sir!

  • Kal-El-1983

    Sorry but the only thing good about this film was Faora. The only modern iteration of Superman worth a damn is Superman: Earth One. It struck the right medium of Alien and Human in Superman.

    • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

      I love Earth One, and I love Birthright. So this film to me was the next step from those stories. I think we got a very human and yet alienated Supeman in this film, as he always wants to help, and wants to fit in and yet feels he has to keep his distance. Faora was a great character though and her speech while fighting superman was awesome.

      • Kal-El-1983

        I guess that is where the split in the fans comes from…speaking for myself..I never wanted a more Human Superman. There are literally hundreds of flawed characters out there to relate to. I don’t have to “relate” to a character to enjoy a story.

        • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

          I guess so. But if I can’t relate to the character in some ways there is a disconnect for me. Do I have to fully agree with their ideals or whatever? No, butI need to understand where they’re coming from. Superman has been a favorite character not because of his powers or how cool he is (not cool at all really) but because of his morals and humanity, and the fact that as an alien he still embodies all the things we hold dear about humanity in their ultimate form. Like the film said, something to aspire to. Not the abilities but what’s behind the abilities. The more human he is, the more we see those qualities. Showing that even the most powerful can falter isn’t a weakness but a strength because it lets people know they can still achieve greatness.

          • Kal-El-1983

            once again..different view points I guess. Superman was always cool to me..not just because of his powers..but he never faltered, hardly ever doubted himself and was never tempted to take his power as reason to rule. Human’s are fallible…it’s expected. But I can see that everyday in the media, in the public and in the mirror. When I crack open a Superman comic or watch a Superman film..I don’t want to see the same weaknesses of character. Superman was the constant..he was better than us..in every way..yet served as our protector and not our ruler. and the more you reached for that unattainable goal the better you became. Superman is of the same vein as Hercules ,bellerophon, Cú Chulainn and all the other Mythological heroes who were not human and were meant to inspire greatness..not relatability. But, it seems that my way of thinking..at 30..is outdated. I don’t want my heroes to be like me..I want them to be better.

          • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

            I completely get what you’re saying. I have always equated the DCU as new mythology. They are the new Gods and Demigods. That said even Greek gods and heroes had issues. I think that’s why I have always liked Greek mythology, becuase not only were the heroes imperfect, but the Gods themselves were, no matter how powerful they were, they got jealous, lonely, sad, etc. I’m not saying that heroes should always fall prey to these things, but a glimpse every now and then that NO ONE is perfect makes their heroism believable. Otherwise it’s kinda like “well he’s Superman of course he’s going to perervere.” I wan’t that perserverance to be a guide more than, he’s perfect he never fails. I want my heroes to show me that they may be better than me but it’s something I can aspire to as well. I think that’s why when I read comics Marvel calls to me a little more. I am a fan of both, for DC I am a GL, Batman, JL, and Superman fan (though not as much as the others) and for Marvel it’s Spiderman, Deadpool, X-men, and some others. My thing is if our heroes are “better” than us than us, than what does that make us?

          • Kal-El-1983

            I like both DC and Marvel as well. Superman and Wolverine are my two favorite heroes. No one is perfect..in the real world..which is why I read comics and novels. Reality has been slowly invading fantasy more and more. I want to escape completely from reality when I read or watch a fantasy/sci-fi story. I never said Superman should always succeed first try..but any failure should not be because of a “flaw”. That’s why characters such as Darkseid, Mongul, Doomsday etc were my favorites. because they were so much more powerful than Superman. I always felt that Superman should have had less done with him..by that I mean instead of 3 or 4 titles trying to come up with different stories..regulate it to one continuous series. But that’s a different subject not unrelated but saved for another time. As to what “we” are if the heroes are “better”..makes us worms. All this does not mean I dislike flawed and relatable characters..far from it…I just think there is more than enough room for both types of characters. Like I said earlier, there are hundreds of relatable and flawed characters out there..why drag another character down to that level.

          • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

            I hear you. But just saying that we’re worms is what makes me NOT like heroes that are so far morally and ideally beyond us. I don’t want to be a worm to someone, even in fantasy. yes it’s great thathe never used his powers to rule, but that said we’re basically pets then, and THAT I’m not okay with. But I completely get where you’re coming from. But like I said growing up with both comics AND Greek mythology I’ve seen flawed heroes and Gods for a long time.

          • Kal-El-1983

            that is exactly my point…Compared to Superman..we are worms…but he does not see anyone that way or treat them as such. Like I said I like flawed heroes just fine..but this current trend of turning EVERY hero into a flawed and or reluctant hero is getting old fast. I grew up as well with comics and all mythologies…I prefer Celtic and Norse myself.

          • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

            Btw not trying to change your mind. Just debating.

  • AcidFlask

    This WAS a bad movie, no matter how hard you try to defend it.
    You can’t deny the facts:
    It was poorly constructed, lazily written, morally inept, overly expositorial, emotionally flat, ham-fisted, humorless, redundant, bloated, offensive, and burdened by plot holes, bad dialogue and product placement.

    • JasOn Vu

      AGREEE… i was wishing the sequel to be “crisis on infinite earth”, where the anti-matter come and killed this universe Superman… Oh wait and then we will get the crappy new 52 universe… NVM… it a dead end either way…. Uhmm.. there always MARVEL.. go

  • JasOn Vu

    the third act was pointless, didnt any of you watch “man of steel : how it should of ended” Superman/ Clark had sooo many chance to defeat Zod and prevent the destruction.. The fight was good CGI, but bad for it paced..Clark should of used all of their weakness against them. Destroy all their armor and POUND AND GROUND.

    • Aegon the Conqueror

      You could argue the exact same thing for TDKR and the Avengers, lord of the rings as well, but that wouldn’t make a very good story now would it?
      Having a villian and hero not face of at all would be tantamount to box office suicide.

      • JasOn Vu

        that Different, Batman has a no killing rule.. Avengers.. none of them have SUPER strength, speed, durability, what the superman have.,.. Dont compare. Superman can even kill you by looking at you. Dont give me the compare B S.. Zod give superman 24 hour…and superman knew when Zod ship was TOOO..come ONNN…

        • Logical Comic Book Realist

          Batman has broken his “no killing rule.” Let me refresh your memory. In “The Dark Knight” Batman pushes Harvey Dent/Two Face off the side of the building. The next film (The Dark Knight Rises) shows that Harvey Dent died. Need more evidence? Look at Tim Burton’s “Batman” with Michael Keaton. Batman kills the tough black guy he was fighting in the church by throwing him down many flights of stairs, sending him to his death. Then in the next film, “Batman Returns,” he fights a big fat guy and then attaches dynamite to his waist. Then Batman pushes the fat guy into a hole and it blows up. So Batman has broken his no killing code. Sometimes heroes have to do what they can in the moment to stop the enemy. As for your criticism of “Man of Steel,” you seem to be an expert on how Superman can stop any problem and defeat every enemy. Perhaps you should write (1) a script and (2) a story and send it to David Goyer and Zack Snyder.

          • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

            I had the Batman discussion with my daughter while watching the original films because SHE pointed that out and is a huge Batman fan. Those examples aren’t exactly good though as that was a different version of Batman, then again the same can be said of this version of Superman. But long story short, I’ll still take this as where he gets his rule from. But yes it comes down to sometimes you have to make the hard choices. I also think because Superman was all about saving people, it really hurt him to have to take a life.

        • Aegon the Conqueror

          Listen to max landis writer of chronicles opinion. Its fine for supes not to kill humans cause hes basically a god. Zod isnt a human, therefore zod does not deserve the same mercy.

        • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

          It’s called dramatic effect. If every story ended the way it should’ve we wouldn’t have ANY good stories. Besides this is Superman, he doesn’t just attack things he tries to talk first. And when that doesn’t work then its time for business. When he had his chance to stop Zod in Smallville, Faora and the big guy came and stopped him. Then he had the issue of taking out the world engine. Yeah he could;ve gone after Zod, if he knew where he was (arctic with the scout ship) but then the world would’ve been worse off as millions of people died with the conversion of the atmosphere. So zod gives him 24 hours to give himself up. which he did, and we saw what happened.

          • JasOn Vu

            The only reason we want this movie to be successful, because it is Superman movie. If this was another superhero, we wouldn’t be having a sequel. This is just pointless, a bad movie is eventually will be a BAD movie. Period, stop doubting yourself and just listen to what your really think. Even though this movie was a disappointment, we still hope that the sequel will be better (Ben as batman GO to hell). Continue to enjoy your Supes comic.

          • Aegon the Conqueror

            That might be you but it’s definitely not true for most of us. I genuinely liked it! Iron Man 3 is a movie I wanted to like but I despise it totally!

          • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

            Not doubting myself in the slightest. I enjoyed Man of Steel a lot. I enjoyed Iron Man 3 a lot as well (Please let’s not start that debate again here though) and I was just backing my opinion. I actually am not a fan of Superman in comics usually. it takes a very good story for me to be a Superman fan. And I like the ones that challenge his mythos like “What ever Happened to truth, justice and the American way” which got adapted into Superman vs The Elite. I love Birthright and Earth one as retellings of his origin. I loved the “Our Worlds at War” storyline, and the Return of Superman story, as well as the New Krypton arc. But it’s those big sprawling stories that I enjoye with Superman. That said for film everything needs to be slightly grounded in order to be believable.

        • Kal-El-1983

          ok..I don’t like Man of Steel either..but are you forgetting Thor and Hulk…both have superhuman strength matching superman..are basically invulnerable and Thor can fly….

  • TRD

    I love this movie and appreciate that you took the time to write this article. I am a proud owner of this movie on blu-ray.

  • Jonathan Pratte

    This was a very good movie with its flaws. If they learn from this one, the sequel is gonna be fantastic. They are trying different things Marvel wouldn’t even dare and I respect them for that. It is still growing on me by each view.

    • bOb

      i liked it, had flaws, def not as bad as people say, but i just enjoy marvel more, plus with gotg theyre going balls deep, i mean i like guardians of the galaxy but it is a big risk for marvel, so you cant say that marvel isnt daring

      • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

        Don’t get me wrong I love the MCU! I mean seriously love it. Ambitious, and true to the source material without letting themselves get bogged down with sticking slavishly to it. Marvel has truly built a UNIVERSE and I love returning to it in any form. Hopefully GoTG will show DC that a space epic can work and they’ll stop being afraid to embrace what makes GL so much fun. I still say that movie tanked not because of Reynolds but because they returned to Earth.

      • Jonathan Pratte

        I still do, and I’m talking about the end of Man of steel.

        • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

          What do you mean? What was daring about that?
          I was just mentioning that DC got cold feet with GL and Marvel is going all in with GoTG and they are comparable as being space based characters.

          • Jonathan Pratte

            Talking to bOb…

  • Aegon the Conqueror

    I still say this was the best Superhero movie since the Avengers. I love what they did with the characters. I’m a big fan of the earth one comics and this was right in line with the Superman one. Haters be hating but for the most part people liked this one. I can’t watch the originals without cringing at how unorignial they are, the less said about Returns the better. But this was a breath of fresh air.

  • Aegon the Conqueror

    One GREAT thing you forgot to mention is the score! Omg! My favourite superhero soundtrack of all time DK trilogy incl.

    • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

      Defintiely!! The theme song alone just makes you want to to something heroic!

  • drunktender

    coincidentally I just finished watching it again right before I saw this article. I’m okay with everything you wrote. The only thing I wanted was the observation of the destruction. Like holy fuck thousands of people are dead and anywhere from 7-10 city blocks are leveled, but everyones back in business at the Planet at the end of the movie. I’m not asking for much, but maybe at the end with general he says something like sorry I couldn’t protect everyone and ill do my best to help Metropolis rebuild. I dunno just something that acknowledged it. I just felt that it was glossed over. Also with that I really hope that they address it in the sequel. Like this how superman becomes to so selfless, because of the pain he feels over not being able to save everyone. Also, could be the point of contention between batman and superman. Maybe bats is pissed at super for being so blatantly ignorant to the loss of human life.

    • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

      I don’t think it was glossed over really. We don’t see the city except through the windows of the Daily Planet, which was not damaged. All we see is a bit of the city through the windows of the Planet when Clark arrives, and not much of that either. I’m sure it will be addressed, and hell I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s used as a way for Lex to gain power in the city by rebuilding, and Superman also helps rebuilding efforts. He would do that.