David Goyer to Pit The Man of Steel vs Brainiac and Lex Luthor

Ugh, Lex Luthor is back? Christ. Anyways, the latest news from the Fortress of Solitude is that David Goyer (left), Hollywood’s go-to guy for all things comic book related, has now come onboard Warner Bros.’ latest attempt to get a “Superman Returns” sequel (to be called “The Man of Steel”) off the ground before 2013, when the studio will lose the rights to the character to the heirs of Superman co-creators Jerome Siegel and Joe Shuster. That means they’ll need to get this bad boy in production by 2011 (or earlier) for at least a 2012 release, which serves them right for dragging their feet on the sequel.

Goyer, who has done everything from “Batman Begins” to “Blade”, sold Warner Bros. on his idea for a sequel: an action-packed story pitting Superman against Lex Luthor and the alien supervillain Brainiac. This of course would also mean that Goyer will be working on breathing new life into yet another D.C. superhero character with Christopher Nolan, who was announced as a “mentor” for “The Man of Steel” earlier this month.

As for former “Superman Returns” director Bryan Singer and star Brandon Routh? it doesn’t look like either men will be back.

Finally, a sequel! Man, I'm glad I kept the costume -- wait, what? I'm not coming back? Dammit!



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  • http://www.myspace.com/ The Strongest There Is

    Thank GOD! Goyer is the man. I like the idea of Luthor being in the movie again because they need to finally get his damn character right. I’ve waited a long time for a good Superman/Luthor outing and Brainiac is the just the piece to get all this flowing beautifully.
    Now I’m actually pretty content with another movie being made.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      Eh I don’t think they necessarily got it wrong, so much as since they were continuing from the old films they had to find a way to try and move Luthor in the direction of the Luthor we’ve come to know since SUperman:TAS. Lois and Clark, etc. They started down that road in Superman Returns. But again we got into the realestate thing and stuff, ugh! Anyway if Brainiac is gonna be in it then that amps things up considerably.

  • http://www.myspace.com The Strongest There Is

    Thank GOD! Goyer is the man. I like the idea of Luthor being in the movie again because they need to finally get his damn character right. I’ve waited a long time for a good Superman/Luthor outing and Brainiac is the just the piece to get all this flowing beautifully.
    Now I’m actually pretty content with another movie being made.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com Dedpool

      Eh I don’t think they necessarily got it wrong, so much as since they were continuing from the old films they had to find a way to try and move Luthor in the direction of the Luthor we’ve come to know since SUperman:TAS. Lois and Clark, etc. They started down that road in Superman Returns. But again we got into the realestate thing and stuff, ugh! Anyway if Brainiac is gonna be in it then that amps things up considerably.

  • http://www.myspace.com/ The Strongest There Is

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  • LSB

    Im game, but what about Geoff Johns to write the story he is on the new DC Entertainment excutive chair or something like that. So i would rather see him right the story but either way im happy that they are finally making some noise. But you know what i would also like to see Imperiex be the main villin what u guys think?

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      Impreix huh? That’s a lil much. I’ll say Darkseid should be next. As for Johns, as far as I’m concerned he can do no wrong right now. But alas it’s not gonna happen. I’ll take brainiac though. I’d love to see him start off looking like the animated version and end up looking like the 80′s robo-skeleton version.

      • LSB

        Ok how about this…..a 4 picture arc starting with this one then you got Doomsday in the second movie, he defeats him. In the third movie you got Doomsday and Darkseid, with Green Lantern and Wonder Woman helping Superman out to defeat them. Then Impreix in the fourth movie with a vicious battle that destroys earth and Superman is the last man alive. And since he is the last man alive he is mad and vurious that he couldn’t save mankind that he turns bad. With him saying at the end of the movie saying “T am no longer Superman cause I am the last man alive, I will forever be nown as the…….Kryptonian” End credits. That would be the shit and you could continue it. I have alot of ideas that would be the ultimate Superhero movies of all time. What do you guys think? And I could go in detail in each movie to make it more exciting.

        • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

          Yeah definitely interesting ideas. But unless they can get a WW film off the ground that won’t happen either. Though I’d almost say no DOomsday. The inevitable conclusion is that he will die, and then be ressurected and that’s a bit much for the movies. It’d be kinda rushed. I say Brainiac, next movie have Luthor try and clone SUperman and end up with a trully twisted Bizarro that is more a chaotic and messed up version of Supes, not just a dumb backwards version. The next film can have Darkseid in it and then a JLA movie with Imperiex as the villain.

  • LSB

    Im game, but what about Geoff Johns to write the story he is on the new DC Entertainment excutive chair or something like that. So i would rather see him right the story but either way im happy that they are finally making some noise. But you know what i would also like to see Imperiex be the main villin what u guys think?

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com Dedpool

      Impreix huh? That’s a lil much. I’ll say Darkseid should be next. As for Johns, as far as I’m concerned he can do no wrong right now. But alas it’s not gonna happen. I’ll take brainiac though. I’d love to see him start off looking like the animated version and end up looking like the 80′s robo-skeleton version.

      • LSB

        Ok how about this…..a 4 picture arc starting with this one then you got Doomsday in the second movie, he defeats him. In the third movie you got Doomsday and Darkseid, with Green Lantern and Wonder Woman helping Superman out to defeat them. Then Impreix in the fourth movie with a vicious battle that destroys earth and Superman is the last man alive. And since he is the last man alive he is mad and vurious that he couldn’t save mankind that he turns bad. With him saying at the end of the movie saying “T am no longer Superman cause I am the last man alive, I will forever be nown as the…….Kryptonian” End credits. That would be the shit and you could continue it. I have alot of ideas that would be the ultimate Superhero movies of all time. What do you guys think? And I could go in detail in each movie to make it more exciting.

        • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com Dedpool

          Yeah definitely interesting ideas. But unless they can get a WW film off the ground that won’t happen either. Though I’d almost say no DOomsday. The inevitable conclusion is that he will die, and then be ressurected and that’s a bit much for the movies. It’d be kinda rushed. I say Brainiac, next movie have Luthor try and clone SUperman and end up with a trully twisted Bizarro that is more a chaotic and messed up version of Supes, not just a dumb backwards version. The next film can have Darkseid in it and then a JLA movie with Imperiex as the villain.

  • j.james

    I mean there are a lot of cool ideas that people could run with when it comes to Superman that i would enjoy seeing, but it just comes down to what will work and look aesthetically pleasing on screen. We must remember this is a different medium, and what works and looks cool in a graphic novel or comic book, doesn’t necessarily work for screen adaptations. Also as much as these adaptations are made to please fans they are also made to appeal to the masses. As much as i would like to see someone else other than Lex as the villian, i understand why he is always used. Hes the most identifiable villian to the masses and the most known to people who aren’t exactly familiar with the whole Superman world. A majority of the people that make up the movie going crowd aren’t going to be imediatly drawn to a film unless there are actors or characters that are familiar to them or recognizable, thats just the way it is. Take for instance Batman, he has a ton of other interesting villians that i personally would like to see, that not too many people know about (outside of fans), but who do we always see or here rumored..Joker,Penguin,Catwoman,Riddler..the ones that are familiar to casual fans. We will never see the Superman that we all would like to see. The same stereotypical Superman story will be used and no risks will be taken..thats pretty much the way its always been..They need to get some balls and put a spin on the Superman that many have come to know. Take a lesson from “Dark Knight” and don’t be affraid to go dark and gritty and make Superman seem like a REAL person…otherwise we will just end up with the same “Scratch the surface” Superman that has always been portrayed.

    • LSB

      Why not go all out. They are bringing Green Lantern to the mix and we all know that that has alot to deal with aliens. So why not go out the box with Darkseid or Impreix, and Brainiac. If you want to go big thats what you have to do. And I’m all for Superman going dark, but not too dark, it will take away from his legacy so to speak. At least not for the whole movie.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      But here’s the thing with what you’re saying about why Lex is used. He’s the most recognized, but he’s not the ONLY recognizeable villain. Brainiac is well knwon, as is some version of Zod, and Toyman, etc. If they went the route they did in Smallville mixed with Superman: Doomsday even a b-lister like Toyman could be cool. But I say stick with Luthor pulling strings, but have Brainiac, or Darkseid, or Bizzaro so we can have some kock down, drag-out, collateral damage fights.

      • LSB

        OK since you brought up Smallville, I was wondering what you think about Casting Tom Welling? I diff. like him as Superman. I mean C’mon son he has put in enough time as the TV Superman, give him the opportunity to play the grown up/high budget movie Superman. He has the look the built the statur, and plus Christopher Reevs wanted Tom to play Superman when he was still alive so if Reevs co-sign on him it must be a good idea, right?

        • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

          What I think is that they need to end the show. And start a new one called “Metropolis: The Adventures of Superman.” I don’t know if I’d want him a Superman in a movie only because his clark is SO different from any other before. For a film they’d probably have him play the awkward, and clumsy Clark to a point. And I wouldn’t be able to get Smallville out of my head and it woudln’t be connected to the show so that makes it even more of a mess.

          • LSB

            They are trying for a tenth season. I know cause im a fan of the show,(don’t laugh at me). And think about it if they want the movie to come out in 2012 then they will have to start filming by June of 2011 which means the final season of Smallville will be over by then. I remember in a interview that Tom had said the Clark he plays in Smallville is totally diff. then the one when he is actually called Superman. So he is aware of it. Im pretty sure if he does a movie he would be the more tradional clumsy Clark. But i understand where u are coming from far as him being in Smallville and then in a big budget movie, some people will have a hard time with seperating the two.

  • j.james

    I mean there are a lot of cool ideas that people could run with when it comes to Superman that i would enjoy seeing, but it just comes down to what will work and look aesthetically pleasing on screen. We must remember this is a different medium, and what works and looks cool in a graphic novel or comic book, doesn’t necessarily work for screen adaptations. Also as much as these adaptations are made to please fans they are also made to appeal to the masses. As much as i would like to see someone else other than Lex as the villian, i understand why he is always used. Hes the most identifiable villian to the masses and the most known to people who aren’t exactly familiar with the whole Superman world. A majority of the people that make up the movie going crowd aren’t going to be imediatly drawn to a film unless there are actors or characters that are familiar to them or recognizable, thats just the way it is. Take for instance Batman, he has a ton of other interesting villians that i personally would like to see, that not too many people know about (outside of fans), but who do we always see or here rumored..Joker,Penguin,Catwoman,Riddler..the ones that are familiar to casual fans. We will never see the Superman that we all would like to see. The same stereotypical Superman story will be used and no risks will be taken..thats pretty much the way its always been..They need to get some balls and put a spin on the Superman that many have come to know. Take a lesson from “Dark Knight” and don’t be affraid to go dark and gritty and make Superman seem like a REAL person…otherwise we will just end up with the same “Scratch the surface” Superman that has always been portrayed.

    • LSB

      Why not go all out. They are bringing Green Lantern to the mix and we all know that that has alot to deal with aliens. So why not go out the box with Darkseid or Impreix, and Brainiac. If you want to go big thats what you have to do. And I’m all for Superman going dark, but not too dark, it will take away from his legacy so to speak. At least not for the whole movie.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com Dedpool

      But here’s the thing with what you’re saying about why Lex is used. He’s the most recognized, but he’s not the ONLY recognizeable villain. Brainiac is well knwon, as is some version of Zod, and Toyman, etc. If they went the route they did in Smallville mixed with Superman: Doomsday even a b-lister like Toyman could be cool. But I say stick with Luthor pulling strings, but have Brainiac, or Darkseid, or Bizzaro so we can have some kock down, drag-out, collateral damage fights.

      • LSB

        OK since you brought up Smallville, I was wondering what you think about Casting Tom Welling? I diff. like him as Superman. I mean C’mon son he has put in enough time as the TV Superman, give him the opportunity to play the grown up/high budget movie Superman. He has the look the built the statur, and plus Christopher Reevs wanted Tom to play Superman when he was still alive so if Reevs co-sign on him it must be a good idea, right?

        • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com Dedpool

          What I think is that they need to end the show. And start a new one called “Metropolis: The Adventures of Superman.” I don’t know if I’d want him a Superman in a movie only because his clark is SO different from any other before. For a film they’d probably have him play the awkward, and clumsy Clark to a point. And I wouldn’t be able to get Smallville out of my head and it woudln’t be connected to the show so that makes it even more of a mess.

          • LSB

            They are trying for a tenth season. I know cause im a fan of the show,(don’t laugh at me). And think about it if they want the movie to come out in 2012 then they will have to start filming by June of 2011 which means the final season of Smallville will be over by then. I remember in a interview that Tom had said the Clark he plays in Smallville is totally diff. then the one when he is actually called Superman. So he is aware of it. Im pretty sure if he does a movie he would be the more tradional clumsy Clark. But i understand where u are coming from far as him being in Smallville and then in a big budget movie, some people will have a hard time with seperating the two.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    I think Green Lantern is the judge and jury on what we can expect from DC’s lineup. If they can pass off all the outer worldly crazy crap that goes on in that comic and make people okay with it on screen, We will have a playing field of what to expect from Superman. Brainiac is the first step in the right direction for the character film wise because it stops people from trying to dig too deep into the trials of the man of steel as an illegal alien, want to be human, BS that so many people seem to want for a storyline. That stuff comes with the character and I dont need to see Superman flying around crying on himself like in Returns. Bring on Brainiac, bring on epic battles, and if he’s going to cry, let him cry over the realization of why his homeworld was sexploded. And by God let the man get Angry!~

    Fights:
    If this version does not have impact punches and crazy fight choreography maximizing the potential of this character, I will write off the character as a whole. In 2006 we got a bullet in the eye. In 20-whatever, I want a movie worthy of the S. I dont even like the superman character that much but he has been a breeding ground for ripe ideas that never get used to their potential. I want to see someone at least attempt to use some of them. i.e. Brainiac, The thought process of a man that has to be always conscious of his power so that he doesn’t crush someones hand when giving them a handshake, A villain that can take a punch from that same guy and come back for more. A true fight.

    Lex Luthor:
    Whoever they choose to play Luthor needs to look powerful. It makes me crazy that they get it right in everything but the movies. Luthor is Brains to the point of Brawn. Give him his company, give him his power tie, and let a great actor run wild with his corporate corrupt power hungry side. No more comic relief Luthor, or Real Estate BS.

    Goyer over the years has had a hand in some pretty great things, but I love Goyer because he seems to be the correct combination of Fan, Creator, Writer. He understands what the comic book fans want from a superhero movie and he understands the characters enough to give the fans what they want and not alienate everyone else with a mediocre film. He also isn’t so egotistical that he becomes a whiny bitch. They should have let him do the Flash movie but DC wanted to be whiny punks. Goyer took it in stride and did something else. I would have loved for James Mctiegue (Ninja Assassin, V for Vendetta) to have a crack at it, or even the Wachowskis, because I know they would have brought something radical to the character while being true to the source. Goyer will do the same, so I have no Gripes.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      TSTI you definitely have great points. I like Luthor but only as a shadowy criminal. I don’t like when he’s just out for land land land. He wants POWER not LAND! So have him get back to Metropolis, start up Lexcorp and get his hands into everything. Have Brainiac land and there you go. But you’re right about GL being the test for the more over the top sci-fi stuff. Like J.James said not EVERYTHING works when transported from one media to another.I hope it works as I’m a huge GL fan, but Goyer on Supes isn’t a bad thing at all.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    I think Green Lantern is the judge and jury on what we can expect from DC’s lineup. If they can pass off all the outer worldly crazy crap that goes on in that comic and make people okay with it on screen, We will have a playing field of what to expect from Superman. Brainiac is the first step in the right direction for the character film wise because it stops people from trying to dig too deep into the trials of the man of steel as an illegal alien, want to be human, BS that so many people seem to want for a storyline. That stuff comes with the character and I dont need to see Superman flying around crying on himself like in Returns. Bring on Brainiac, bring on epic battles, and if he’s going to cry, let him cry over the realization of why his homeworld was sexploded. And by God let the man get Angry!~

    Fights:
    If this version does not have impact punches and crazy fight choreography maximizing the potential of this character, I will write off the character as a whole. In 2006 we got a bullet in the eye. In 20-whatever, I want a movie worthy of the S. I dont even like the superman character that much but he has been a breeding ground for ripe ideas that never get used to their potential. I want to see someone at least attempt to use some of them. i.e. Brainiac, The thought process of a man that has to be always conscious of his power so that he doesn’t crush someones hand when giving them a handshake, A villain that can take a punch from that same guy and come back for more. A true fight.

    Lex Luthor:
    Whoever they choose to play Luthor needs to look powerful. It makes me crazy that they get it right in everything but the movies. Luthor is Brains to the point of Brawn. Give him his company, give him his power tie, and let a great actor run wild with his corporate corrupt power hungry side. No more comic relief Luthor, or Real Estate BS.

    Goyer over the years has had a hand in some pretty great things, but I love Goyer because he seems to be the correct combination of Fan, Creator, Writer. He understands what the comic book fans want from a superhero movie and he understands the characters enough to give the fans what they want and not alienate everyone else with a mediocre film. He also isn’t so egotistical that he becomes a whiny bitch. They should have let him do the Flash movie but DC wanted to be whiny punks. Goyer took it in stride and did something else. I would have loved for James Mctiegue (Ninja Assassin, V for Vendetta) to have a crack at it, or even the Wachowskis, because I know they would have brought something radical to the character while being true to the source. Goyer will do the same, so I have no Gripes.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com Dedpool

      TSTI you definitely have great points. I like Luthor but only as a shadowy criminal. I don’t like when he’s just out for land land land. He wants POWER not LAND! So have him get back to Metropolis, start up Lexcorp and get his hands into everything. Have Brainiac land and there you go. But you’re right about GL being the test for the more over the top sci-fi stuff. Like J.James said not EVERYTHING works when transported from one media to another.I hope it works as I’m a huge GL fan, but Goyer on Supes isn’t a bad thing at all.