Edgar Wright Explains The Absence of Ultron in His Ant-Man Movie


Marvel Studios at Comic-Con International 2012

I have to admit, I’m a bit confused by what Marvel is doing with the “Ant-Man” movie and Joss Whedon’s “The Avengers 2: Age of Ultron”. Ultron, in the comic books, was created by Ant-Man, and went on to menace the Marvel universe. So you would think having Edgar Wright’s “Ant-Man” movie come first and acting as a set-up for the “Avengers” sequel would be a no-brainer, especially given Marvel’s forward-thinking approach to tying up their cinematic universe.

But the thing is, “Ant-Man” will be released November 6, 2015, which is after “The Avengers: Age of Ultron”, which opens in the Summer before on May 1, 2015. You can’t set up “The Avengers 2″ if “Ant-Man” doesn’t come before it. Know what I mean?

Ultron Comic BookI guess the plan was never to set-up one movie with another, and instead Edgar Wright’s “Ant-Man” will just be a superhero film on its own island. Connected to the greater Marvel Cinematic Universe, of course, but not very dependent on them.

Wright says as much to HuffPo while out promoting his sci-fi comedy “The World’s End”:

[Ultron] was never in my script. Because even just to sort of set up what Ant-Man does is enough for one movie. It’s why I think “Iron Man” is extremely successful because it keeps it really simple. You have one sort of — the villain comes from the hero’s technology. It’s simple. So I think why that film really works and why, sometimes, superhero films fail — or they have mixed results — because they have to set up a hero and a villain at the same time. And that’s really tough. And sometimes it’s unbalanced.

It will be very interesting to see how they connect “The Avengers 2″ and “Ant-Man”, though, and you gotta figure there will be some connection, given Ultron’s origins. Perhaps a quickie cameo by Ant-Man in “The Avengers” … before he becomes Ant-Man? Ant-Man back when he was still just a scientist, perhaps? That would be my guess.

We’ll find out when Whedon’s “The Avengers: Age of Ultron” opens in 2015, followed by “Ant-Man” in the same year, a few months later.

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  • Vos_L

    Ant-Man isn’t going to be tied into the Avengers movies as much as the other films. They said a long time ago that it would be different from the others and that, basically, the only reason they were even making the movie was because of Wright’s vision and script for it. So it probably won’t be a series of 3-4 Ant-Man movies. You’re looking at one movie and then the character probably getting mixed into the Avengers. Ultron has no business in an Ant-Man origin story. The Ultron from the comics would almost need an origin story movie himself.

  • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

    In the “Next Avengers” animated film it was Tony Stark that created Ultron. So there is already precedence for Marvel switching that up. I also beleive in their all-ages Marvel Adventures comic, Ultron was created by the government. Havig Ultron be created from Stark tech, and such. I’d love it if somehow Chitauri tech was involved as well.

    • Juggernaut

      That would work for me. I’m guessing that by Wright’s statement of the villain coming from the hero’s technology we’ll either see Erik Jonston or Bill Foster become Goliath!

      • http://www.beyondhollywood.com/ Dedpool

        Stretching a bit but that’d work!

        • Juggernaut

          How is that a stretch? He’s Ant-Man. It’s not like he has a whole lot of enemies to pick from! LOL! Besides, his statement of the villain coming from the hero’s technology kinda suggests that.
          It would certainly prove for an different and exiting climax in a superhero movie. Two dudes 30 stories tall wreaking havok through a city’s landscape. I could see them ducking and dodging one another by shrinking and growing. That would be really cool.


    Ant man is scientist Heny Pym, I think using Pym in an Ultron origin tale could easily pre-date him becoming Ant man.

  • Lee

    There is more than one Ant-Man. Has there ever been anything concrete that Wright’s Ant-Man is Hank Pym? Because I could see him doing more of an Eric O’Grady character.