No Catwoman and Penguin for Batman Begins 3

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Thank God someone over there has some sense, even if I don’t always like how he goes about writing them into the movies. The guy in question is David Goyer, who recently spoke to Digital Spy and made it very clear that he and the Batman Begins gang has no plans to introduce either Catwoman or The Penguin into “Batman Begins 3″, or whatever it ends up being called. Damn straight, Goyer. Why keep re-introducing the same bloody characters, when Batman’s Rogues Gallery is as massive as it is? They got it right by using Ra’s Al Ghul in the first one, and I suppose it was inevitable that the Joker eventually showed up in the second one.

Here’s what Goyer said:

“Batman has been published for 70 years. In the first movie, we used Ra’s Al Ghul and the Scarecrow, who had not been in the movies before, and had not been in the ’60s TV show before.

“There are dozens if not hundreds of other characters that fit that bill. Everyone says it’s got to be the Penguin or Catwoman [in the next film]… well I completely disagree.”

My suggestions for villains in the third one: Two-Face. That’s it. Aaron Eckhart vs. Christian Bale. Is that too much to ask?

Although I have to admit, if they can get someone to fill out the black latex as well as Michelle Pfeiffer did (ahem, below), and floated test photos of it around, I may reconsider the Catwoman stuff… But the Penguin? Too stupid a character for words, that one. And oh yes, don’t even think about the Riddler, too.

Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman

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  • dustin

    I totally agree. Focus on one character and develop him. Superhero movies usually falter when they try to crowd the plate.

    Also am I the only one who really like Batman Returns. I love what Burton did with it. In a way it’s even darker than Batman Begins…and Pfeiffer was hot and there was a lot of freaky pyscho sexual stuff. Plus Christopher Walken!

  • dustin

    I totally agree. Focus on one character and develop him. Superhero movies usually falter when they try to crowd the plate.

    Also am I the only one who really like Batman Returns. I love what Burton did with it. In a way it’s even darker than Batman Begins…and Pfeiffer was hot and there was a lot of freaky pyscho sexual stuff. Plus Christopher Walken!

  • dustin

    I totally agree. Focus on one character and develop him. Superhero movies usually falter when they try to crowd the plate.

    Also am I the only one who really like Batman Returns. I love what Burton did with it. In a way it’s even darker than Batman Begins…and Pfeiffer was hot and there was a lot of freaky pyscho sexual stuff. Plus Christopher Walken!

  • http://myspace.com/hulksmashnow Brad L. Wooldridge

    I think that the Penguin and the Riddler can be done seriously in Nolan’s Batman films. Make the Penguin a crimeboss with “The Penguin” as a nickname, and eschew all of the bird trappings. As for the Riddler, make him a serial killer who leaves riddles as clues. And never refer to him as the Riddler, except in newspaper headlines.

    Catwoman might work, but make her as grounded in reality as possible. Keep the prostitution origin, and make her exactly what she should be, a cat burglar. A really hot cat burglar…

  • http://myspace.com/hulksmashnow Brad L. Wooldridge

    I think that the Penguin and the Riddler can be done seriously in Nolan’s Batman films. Make the Penguin a crimeboss with “The Penguin” as a nickname, and eschew all of the bird trappings. As for the Riddler, make him a serial killer who leaves riddles as clues. And never refer to him as the Riddler, except in newspaper headlines.

    Catwoman might work, but make her as grounded in reality as possible. Keep the prostitution origin, and make her exactly what she should be, a cat burglar. A really hot cat burglar…

    • chris

      Those are good ideas. Especially the serial killer one…very nice.

    • chris

      Those are good ideas. Especially the serial killer one…very nice.

    • http://towardsmecca.com/ Osama

      I rarely say this about commenters but you really know what you’re talking about. Nolan’s doing a great job but I’m sure you’d be able to help anyway!

    • http://towardsmecca.com/ Osama

      I rarely say this about commenters but you really know what you’re talking about. Nolan’s doing a great job but I’m sure you’d be able to help anyway!

  • http://myspace.com/hulksmashnow Brad L. Wooldridge

    I think that the Penguin and the Riddler can be done seriously in Nolan’s Batman films. Make the Penguin a crimeboss with “The Penguin” as a nickname, and eschew all of the bird trappings. As for the Riddler, make him a serial killer who leaves riddles as clues. And never refer to him as the Riddler, except in newspaper headlines.

    Catwoman might work, but make her as grounded in reality as possible. Keep the prostitution origin, and make her exactly what she should be, a cat burglar. A really hot cat burglar…

    • chris

      Those are good ideas. Especially the serial killer one…very nice.

    • http://towardsmecca.com Osama

      I rarely say this about commenters but you really know what you’re talking about. Nolan’s doing a great job but I’m sure you’d be able to help anyway!

  • Billy

    I pretty much agree with Nix about penguin and catwomen..because Michelle Pfeiffer most likely cannt be topped. But if they brought in the Riddler and really made his character dark, I think it would work very well. And it would also get out the bad taste that jim carrey has left in our mouths for all of these years.

  • Billy

    I pretty much agree with Nix about penguin and catwomen..because Michelle Pfeiffer most likely cannt be topped. But if they brought in the Riddler and really made his character dark, I think it would work very well. And it would also get out the bad taste that jim carrey has left in our mouths for all of these years.

    • Stitch

      ” And it would also get out the bad taste that jim carrey has left in our mouths for all of these years.”

      Actually you read all the reviews about Batman Forever and most people said that Jim Carrey’s character was the only good thing in it, other than Joel Shumachers stuffing up of the series.

      Jim Carrey has proven he can play dark movies (The Number 23) and more serious roles (The Majestic, The Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind). If you’d take note of his filmography his had been in all funny movies at the time that Batman Forever was filmed, it wasn’t until after the grinch where he started doing more serious roles and less comedy ones.

      Alot of people believe he can do a serious take in the new batman movie, whether the directors hire him or not, alot of people know he can do it. Next time look up information through the internet to find out what other people thought besides yourself about Jim Carrey starring as the Riddler in the Batman Forever movie. I’ve looked at a few, and like I said, most people said he was the only good thing in it. The world doesn’t revolve around your comment. I know they probebly wouldn’t get him to do the job, but I know he could do it, and he played it well the first time.

    • Stitch

      ” And it would also get out the bad taste that jim carrey has left in our mouths for all of these years.”

      Actually you read all the reviews about Batman Forever and most people said that Jim Carrey’s character was the only good thing in it, other than Joel Shumachers stuffing up of the series.

      Jim Carrey has proven he can play dark movies (The Number 23) and more serious roles (The Majestic, The Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind). If you’d take note of his filmography his had been in all funny movies at the time that Batman Forever was filmed, it wasn’t until after the grinch where he started doing more serious roles and less comedy ones.

      Alot of people believe he can do a serious take in the new batman movie, whether the directors hire him or not, alot of people know he can do it. Next time look up information through the internet to find out what other people thought besides yourself about Jim Carrey starring as the Riddler in the Batman Forever movie. I’ve looked at a few, and like I said, most people said he was the only good thing in it. The world doesn’t revolve around your comment. I know they probebly wouldn’t get him to do the job, but I know he could do it, and he played it well the first time.

  • Billy

    I pretty much agree with Nix about penguin and catwomen..because Michelle Pfeiffer most likely cannt be topped. But if they brought in the Riddler and really made his character dark, I think it would work very well. And it would also get out the bad taste that jim carrey has left in our mouths for all of these years.

    • Stitch

      ” And it would also get out the bad taste that jim carrey has left in our mouths for all of these years.”

      Actually you read all the reviews about Batman Forever and most people said that Jim Carrey’s character was the only good thing in it, other than Joel Shumachers stuffing up of the series.

      Jim Carrey has proven he can play dark movies (The Number 23) and more serious roles (The Majestic, The Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind). If you’d take note of his filmography his had been in all funny movies at the time that Batman Forever was filmed, it wasn’t until after the grinch where he started doing more serious roles and less comedy ones.

      Alot of people believe he can do a serious take in the new batman movie, whether the directors hire him or not, alot of people know he can do it. Next time look up information through the internet to find out what other people thought besides yourself about Jim Carrey starring as the Riddler in the Batman Forever movie. I’ve looked at a few, and like I said, most people said he was the only good thing in it. The world doesn’t revolve around your comment. I know they probebly wouldn’t get him to do the job, but I know he could do it, and he played it well the first time.

  • Metabug

    If they are going to redo old villains, based on how badly they were butchered by Schumacher, Bane should be at the top of the list, followed by Mr. Freeze. Out of the ones they haven’t done before, I’d love to see Clayface (doubt it’s gonna happen) or Mad Hatter. While it’s true there are hundreds of villains in batman universe, they are only so many well-known ones without supernatural powers that can be adapted into the movie.

    Burton’s version of Catwoman and Penguin were amazing, there’s really no good reasons to put a priority on re-imagining them. I don’t know who those “everyone” that are saying they gotta redo them are, but they have no clue what they are talking about.