Possible Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Plot
By Nix | February 8, 2008 (11:10 am) | More: National Treasure 3 (2011) Movie, Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (2011) Movie
I know you kids love your “Pirates of the Caribbean 4″ news, so here’s the latest about a potential plotline for the sure-to-be-made (seriously, after the moolah the second and third installment made, are you really surprise Bruckheimer is going to usher this thing forth come hell or high water?), involving Jack Sparrow and Barbarossa in what could, possibly, be a “buddy movie” on the high seas.
Now given that Bruckheimer & Disney do eventually hope to put a “Pirates 4″ into production (A film that — I hear — would toss the Elizabeth & Will characters over the side in favor of doing a bawdy buddy picture which would star Jack Sparrow & Barbossa. Where both captains of the Black Pearl would initially be competing for the exact same prize. But eventually all the double crossing would have to stop as these two rivals were then forced to join forces in order to defeat some supernatural terror), I’d say that it’s highly doubtful that Jerry & Mickey would cannibalize the setting of the next “Pirates of the Caribbean” picture just so Benjamin Gates could then go off in search of the Fountain of Youth in “National Treasure 3.”
When he refers to “National Treasures 3″, he’s referring to the fact that some are speculating that the third installment in the Nic Cage franchise would be a search for the mythical Fountain of Youth (as opposed to Atlantis, reported here).
So, a “Pirates 4″ without Elizabeth and Will? Could that work…?
he looks pretty damn good actually, just because its based on something doesnt mean the movie should be like it ...
does he look as confused as we are about him playing goku? 
Emmie u ask so many questions, Lol... I dont know. Im just speculating like everybody else on here. We might ...
I DON'T THINK NOW!!!!!!!!! 
it's an excellent film and if you look at it in a different way, it has a narrative of it's ...
cj on 9 February 2008:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ID LOVE A 4TH PIRATES, but without Elizabeth and Will i dont know if id go and see it. i mean u have 2 put all of the characters in it. thats like saying lets make a Spiderman 4 without Spiderman/Peter Parker. just think about it. im PIRATES’ #1 FAN, BUT U REALLY NEED 2 PUT Elizabeth and Will in it, just saying.
PPPPPPPPP on 9 February 2008:
I want Will and Elizabeth back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jack, Barbossa, Will and Lizzie are all the pirates of the Caribbean!
ginrei724 on 10 February 2008:
It would be like having old friends back if Elizabeth and Will were in it, but did you SEE the ending to Pirates 3? Will now has a job to do that keeps him busy for decade stretches at a time… And his one day free would not be enough to get him in a 4th adventure, nor would he want to when that’s his only time to hang with Eliz and fam. Not to mention that Pirates 4 will more than likely take place LONG before the after credit sequence of Pirates 3. There’s just no way they could get those two characters in a 4th one.
Michael on 10 February 2008:
Jesus Hollywood just gets more and more pathetic every single year. Last year alone had so many sequels that it litterally sickened me and if it werent for asian cinema and Criterion Collection for SD DVD I swear I would have absolutely nothing to watch. Hollywood has become a creatively bankrupt city and franchises that can be milked to death are the only films getting green lit today with any substantial budget behind them. Sure there are still a couple films every year that break this mold but its less and less each year. I for one loved Pirates 1, Somewhat enjoyed Pirates 2 and absolutely loathed Pirates 3. I will not be seeing #4 period.
The ironic thing is that the writers went on strike to get more money yet more and more Hollywood writers cant even write a quality script anymore that isnt a sequel. If things keep going at the rate they are right now I will have officially divorced myslef of holllywood films altogether in the very near future. Again if it werent for foreign films and Criterion I would have absolutely nothing to watch. Its pathetic.
PotCFAN on 12 February 2008:
I want Will and Elizabeth back! My favourite characters are Jack (of course) and WILL!!!!!!!!!! I want him back (with Lizzie)!!!!!!!!!!
Jennifer on 12 February 2008:
I think a 4th POC would be completely INCOMPLETE without Will and Elizabeth. Besides, I figure Calypso owes Elizabeth big time, since her vote was needed to “release her from human form”, and surely somehow she could do something about the rules for the Flying Dutchman and the captain’s 10 years at sea / 1 day on land curse. Plus, they left us with a little snippet at the end of the credits - how can Will and Elizabeth have a son and that not EVER be addressed? They have to have the little family raising a young pirate in the 4th installment.
Keep a weathered eye on the horizon my friends…….
Blaise on 12 February 2008:
To ginrei724 :
If you ask the scriptwriters, and pay attention to the story, Will isn’t bound forever, only ten years. It would have been forever if A - He didn’t do his job for ten years, and B - Liz hadn’t been faithful to him. But we know they would do both of these things. So, Will is free after ten years.
That said, he and Liz will not be in 4, but possibly in 5 or 6, if set after the ten years are up. 4 will figure in Jack leaving in the dinghy with the map center, and Barbossa chasing with the Pearl, and all headed for the Fountain of Youth. And I can’t wait. XD
Emily on 15 February 2008:
How can there be a potc movie with out the love birds. I love will and i cant live with out him if they dont put will in the movie i might not see it. i no a whole lot of other people who would not see it either
Ana on 15 February 2008:
Really, I think that I will be very surprised if Will and Elizabeth aren’t in the film. And if they aren’t, I wonder how good the film would actually be!!! I mean, Liz and Will are the main characters!!! And you never know… their son could end up gettin involved too…
(Dum du dum!!)
lil' mac on 16 February 2008:
a 4th movie without Will and Elizebeth!!!! i could cry!! the movie would be incomplete!! if they weren’t in it how could they explain the ending about how Will and Elizebeth had a kid. i think that Keira Knightley and Orlando Bloom are crazy if they don’t want to be in pirates 4!! they could go and do it without them but they will lose a lot of fans! INCLUDING ME!!!!!!!!
Alida on 18 February 2008:
wat would happen without will n elizabeth?? like ppl keep saying, the movie wouldnt be complete. u HAVE to have the whole cast!!! i bet cha if they got everybody back, the movie would be SUCH a big hit!!!!
kw on 18 February 2008:
So far, the writers have done an excellent job, so I say, go for it, with or without Will and Elizabeth, and see how far they can go with another great plot.
keko on 18 February 2008:
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo my dear it can’t be
abeuti movie
john on 19 February 2008:
would you rather have no part 4, or a part 4 maybe without Will and Liz
Kelly on 19 February 2008:
I say give more main characters other than Will and Elizabeth, because they kind of established the two characters with an ending. Maybe even put Dyane “The Rock” Johnson in as Black Beard. Another story that has new characters comming in the adventure.
rebecca on 21 February 2008:
will MUST be in the movie, sure go ahead elizabeth, but please. they’ve been together for 3 movies, why not the fourth? so what, her childs ten years old. by the fourth movie im sure hes about a teenager & has his pirate dreams. splitting them up would be ridiculous. have the kid go along, the pirate movies are getting so good, but leaves us with too many questions. so answer them for us. elizabeth and will were definitely not the heart of the movies, but played important roles. whats jack sparrow without them? hes only witty, you cannot ‘throw them overboard’
Gina on 23 February 2008:
You have to have Will and Elizabeth. The writers are obviously in love with the Jack Sparrow they’ve created (and he’s great) but I can’t believe they haven’t realized yet that his character only works when some “regular” characters are thrown in. Will and Elizabeth provide the “real” that we can relate to so that Jack and the rest of the “characters” can go crazy. As for the how… this is Hollywood. Whose to say what happened during those 10 years once Davy Jones returned to Calypso. Hey, everyone else came back — some with little more explanation than, oh yea, he was dead, I just brought him back.
Harold on 24 February 2008:
Make number 4 I never like elizabeth as the character in the 2nd and 3rd
debbie on 24 February 2008:
HI, I have some really good ideas for pirates of yhe caribbean four. unfortunately noy using will and elizabeth willmake the iseas backfire a little but they are still awesome kindof funny, adventurous and if using the latter romantic. contact me debbieweegal@homail .com
number one pirates fan on 27 February 2008:
i love pirates and you have to make a number 5. i will be very sad if elizebeth and will are not in it but still make it i know alot of people who would see it.
pirateprincess0427 on 1 March 2008:
i feel that itz awsome that u guyz would bring back a forth movie of POTC but i really feel that you also have will and elizabeth back cuz now dat they barally have time to see each other i want to see how that endz up working out between them both and come they had a kid at the end i have to see that kid in the next movie HEHE but yea bring it back with will and elizabeth I LOVE JOHNNY DEPP but u gotz to have them both as well or it really wouldnt be a pirates of the caribbean movie complete without them so ya =].
bizkitgirlzc on 3 March 2008:
I would assume that yeah, they are going after the fountain of youth and since the video game left us with Jack meeting up with Blackbeard this could get interesting. As for Lizzy and Will, I could say that I’ve had enough of them - it’s time for Jack and Barbossa to go through real character development. In my opinion love interests for them both would be fun and interesting to watch. And no Lizzy will not go with Jack because like Blaise said, it takes place during the years she’s waiting and she has been faithful to Will and has a kid to take care of and if she had gone off with Jack Will wouldn’t have been set free as the producers mentioned.
daringdreamer on 4 March 2008:
Sorry Blaise but your wrong.
Check the little insert in the pirates AWE dvd. The writers answer some questions and Will is MOST DEFINATELY bound forever.
So Will at least is a definate out. That’s sad but I still see a chance for Lizzie to come back. She is the pirate king! She at least has to be back!
K.S. on 5 March 2008:
FINALLY!!! no witty-line-i-think-i-know-everything-will and know-it-all-nagging-elizabeth!!! (both of whom are ridiculously naive) i can hear the hallelujah chorus :’( it’s beautiful. besides i think that by ending the AWE movie with the ‘bonus’ clip the way they did, the pair won’t be coming back. they’ll just be waiting for the other to come back forever now.
Jae on 6 March 2008:
AWWWW F… Lizzy and Willy We Only Need The 2 Best Pirate Lords Capn Jack And Capn Barbossa Cause Lizzy Is Just Somethin To Look At And Willy Is Just A Tool.
Effin Hell Bruckheimer better bring out another pirates of the caribbean other wise im gonna FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cassia wallace on 9 March 2008:
I would like to say Jack need to get
his! ship back I mean what is Jack with
out his ship think about it if i where
him i would love to have it back!
jillian on 10 March 2008:
I love Johnny Depp and all the pirate movies but without the main characters, what the heck??? all the crazy orlando bloom fans will like strike against the movie
ashley on 12 March 2008:
YOU HAVE TO HAVE ELIZABETH AND WILL OR IT WONT BE THE SAME!!!!! YOU MUST HAVE THEM.
this is the best sires of movies EVER….in myopinion…..and without will&elizabeth it just wouldnt be the same.
Amy on 13 March 2008:
can’t they mke a forth one where captain jack nd barbosa are the main characters, but with elizabeth nd son making an appearance nd will could come on the flying dutchman just not on ground
Isabel on 15 March 2008:
I say with Colypso free she can take care of the people who die at sea. So why do we need a captain of the Flying Dutchmen, it would be better in the 4th POTC to have Elizabeth save Will from the curse instead of throwing them overboard. Amd i’m sure that all the Elizabeth or Will fans would definetly want them in.
(So do I PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! it wouldn’t be complete without them as everyone says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
emily on 16 March 2008:
insted of makein a like sequal or somthin…..
u all know how in the first one…wich they talk abouit the huge fight that jack and barbossa had yea know…well we dont know exsacly wat happind and wat happind between them to get jack stuck on the island yea know so the next movie should be…
Pirates of the caribbean 4 the begging
that would e cool so then we can under stand all wat happind between them and like bootstrap and stuff i wanna get to know him a bit more too
Ryn on 23 March 2008:
Yes! No Will and Liz means more screen time for Jack and Barbossa! Barbossa is my favorite character! He needs all the screen time he can get!!!
xheyxtherex18 on 25 March 2008:
i could do without will. yeah of course orlando bloom is absolutely gorgeous…but i can not STAND his charachter!!! so get rid of will but seriously, elizabeth is pirate king!!! shes awesome! and the idea of a “buddy movie” between jack and barbossa…WHAT?!? jack SHOT barbossa in the first movie! i love these movies, but disney ruins them!!
My.Name.Is... on 2 April 2008:
Okay, so I just found this site. I was surprised to see how many people are angry that Will and Elizabeth will not be put in the fourth movie.
Have you not looked at any other sites? It is said that both Keira and Orlando don’t WANT to do another Pirates movie. So it is not exactly Disney’s fault, it’s theirs, if that IS true.
I honestly think that with Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow, a fourth movie could be pulled off with Jack and Barbossa. I also think it would be interesting to add a new female main character, since Elizabeth won’t be there and there aren’t really any other women… (perhaps another pirate, much like Jack? It could make it interesting to see a female version of Jack Sparrow and Jack battling it out all the time… Plus, who knows, it could make a love interest….. ^.^)
Paige on 4 April 2008:
I’m scared.
idontknow on 5 April 2008:
LOOK people you dont just kill 2 main characters off like that they been in all 3 movies so far you just dont all of a sudden say no, no we dont will not have them and im 99.9% THERE WILL NOT BE A 4TH but maybe thats how they wanted to end it its almost like Jack is startng over again he has a map to the fountain on youth he is probaly going to find it or something yeah they could make a story out of it but i doubt it THERE is much untold and i would love to see it be answered but im positive there will not be a 4th because disney said no such thing about a possible 4th even though john has said he would be intrested in playing jack again that does not mean disney is intrested yeah maybe there thinking about it but its probaly a longshot sorry to break your hearts people but face up to the truth!
andra on 7 April 2008:
As much as i love pirates u have to understand jack and barbossa have takin over the screen there is nothing major left for will and elizabeth i do think however that small appearences of our newly married friends will keep the legacy going. However i think they should add some new characters such as the most notorios pirate ever known…Blackbeard…. and maybe some others like oh idk how about the daughter of davy jones and calypso a half-mortal that might have a soft spot for jack… keep it up disney i love your movies
My.Name.Is... on 8 April 2008:
Actually, Disney DID say something about hopefully a fourth…maybe. At least, according to this article we’re commenting on/responding to… (Did you read it?)
And they CAN easily kill off the characters of Will and Elizabeth. Their story, whether people like it or not, is FINISHED. They’re married, have a child, Elizabeth is the Pirate King, Will’s the Captain of The Flying Dutchman… There’s nothing more you need those characters for, honestly.
I mean, I think Will and Elizabeth should at least show up a bit, but seeing as Keira and Orlando don’t really WANT to do another Pirates movie… Fine, they’re not neccessary.
The Davy Jone’s daughter thing seems like a good idea… Honestly, ANY new female character I would be happy with…
Jenn on 9 April 2008:
I’m glad the Will and Elizebeth charicters are going to be gone, they were getting annoying, honestly. What would they really do in the 4th one? He’s dead and cant come to land for 10 years and shes practically a single mother, sounds something like Hope Floats which I wouldnt pay to see lol. Unless there was some controversey about Jack and Elizebeth but that wouldnt be very Disney. But I am extremely excited to see Pirates 4 when it comes out, Jack Sparrow is a great charicter and to me will never get old.
amanda on 12 April 2008:
i cnt see y any1 wud hate 2 have a 4th movie cause it wudnt b the same without will and elizabeth but in a way it wud be gud if they made 1 and jack sparrow and barbossa’s big fight which ended wif jack on an island sumwere
Alison on 12 April 2008:
som of da ideas ppl rote r AMAZIN!!!a female version of jack and/or davy jones daughter being brought in sund lik a gr8 story line.i agree wif da majority-will nd elizabeth HAVE 2 b in da 4th movie.id LUV 2 c will gettin freed from da flyin dutchman so he can b wif elizabeth nd their son.i tink it wud b interestin if will nd his son, jack, elizabeth, nd barbossa went on a voyage 2gether.i cant wait for da 4th film 2 b brought out(hopefully it will). even if will nd elizabeth arent in 4th film (although il b RELI annoyed) id still go c it
melly on 14 April 2008:
noooooooooooo !!! i love johnny as jack but without will and elizabeth it won’t be a real pirates of the carribean movie !!! NOOOOOOOOO !!!! I want them all together !!! will, jack,lizzie and barbossa are a real dream team of pirates together !! how can they do it without two of them ???? =’(
aryana on 15 April 2008:
I would love it if they made a 4th pirates movie, but they need to have elizabeth and will. just an idea: they could try and find a way to see each other more than once every 10 years. besides if you watched what happens after the credits were done rolling, it shows a little boy with elizabeth ten years later waiting for will. what happens to the kid???
amanda on 17 April 2008:
yeah thats true lyk if the curse was changed to say sumfin lyk every 3 yrs or so then it wud b better cause then we’ll see more of will and elizabeth or even elizabeth could live on the boat with will and their son!!! would that b a possiblity???
alex on 17 April 2008:
i look just like captain jack…no honestly…its scary…use your imagination people…i got my own idea but its too hot to voice at this moment…email me for a picture for proof if seriously interested…i need to get ahold of J.D himself or part of the production team…THIS COULD BE THE NEXT BIGGEST THING! alexascaptainjack@hotmail.com
tori on 20 April 2008:
it needs will, jack, barbossa. i couldn’t care less abo ut lizz, would actually be better without her. she kinda gets in the way of everyone else. maybe should do somthin with the son.
Grace on 21 April 2008:
Oh I am SO gonna miss Will…. not really Elizabeth cuz…. well I can’t crush on HER! Duh! lol! i never liked her character NEways but WILL IS SOOOO HOTT!!! They can’t kick him out! there HAS 2 b a way! Atlantis? How LAME is that? This is a PIRATE movie…. so lame. >:-(
Morgan on 21 April 2008:
A POTC 4 would be the best thing ever, and I even think they could pull it off without Will and Elizabeth. Their story line is already over, but I think they’re characters would need at least one new character to add to maybe make up for the loss. Just having Jack and Barbossa seems…kinda dull, but I’d still go see it because all a POTC movie needs is Johnny Depp playing Jack.
=]
amanda on 22 April 2008:
wat do use mean it wud b gr8 wifout lizz the movie needs her if will is gonna b in it so if u get rid of lizz then ya mite as well get rid of will
Amy on 22 April 2008:
I don’t know what evry1s beef is with POTC 3…it was GREAT! They can’t make a POTC 4 without Will and Elizabeth though, they’re the main characters! You watch to find out what will happen between them, I mean POTC 1 was based around Will trying to save Elizabeth, who was protecting Will, POTC would have been nothing without them! Don’t get me wrong, Jack Sparrow is amazing but its all about Will, Elizabeth and Jack and that’s how it should stay!!!
Miray on 25 April 2008:
As sad it would be not to have Will and Liz in the picture, I don’t know how much further they can take their story now that Will is the immortal captain of the Flying Dutchman. I’ll go see it whether they are ion it or not, but i hope they find some way to include them.
Jessie on 26 April 2008:
i don’t see why ppl think Will and Liz need to be in the 4th POTC. I think they should focus more on Jack and Barbossa’s charcters. I do agree that maybe they should do something with Will and Lizzie’s kid that would be cool. It would be sooooo awsome to have a female Jack and/or a teenage girl pirate captain that had her own ship with an all girl crew. Sorry i’m a big supporter of girl power so i think that would be awsome. I always thought that Jack was the main character anyway because he is my favorite. He really needs to get his ship back. I mean it’s CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow. He can’t be a captain ithout his precious Pearl. it just wouldn’t be right
Kaitlyn on 27 April 2008:
no way- you can NOT do a Pirates movie without Will and Elizabeth- it wouldn’t be that good! I love Will, Elizabeth, Barbosa and Jack- I want to see them all star in the fourth again!
Jessie on 27 April 2008:
it’s true that they are a team, but every team has to split up eventually. this leaves some spots open for new team members and friends. I’m looking forward to what they come up with and who they put in place of Will and Elizabeth if they truly don’t want to be in Pirates 4. If they are in it that’s fine, but i think the next Pirates trilogy could do without them.
Shui on 28 April 2008:
Oh you can SO do a POTC4 without Will/Elizabeth. They were starting to get really annoying tbh. More Jack Sparrow = more epic-ness especially if it’s JUST about him; you could get really involved IF it was good enough I think…
gabb on 29 April 2008:
Ok I’m not here to push anyones buttons so If what I say you don’t agree with, don’t lash out.
I think that they shouldn’t have left open that extra scene after the credits with will and elizabeth if they did not want them to be apart of the 4th movie. I mean do people forget about the after credit scene? It leaves an open spot for a whole new begining. Yes they all finalized their lives. JACK is free JONES AND TIA DALMA are finally together with love WILL AND LIZ-finally get married. Yet they have a kid… I think there’s an opening spot for another movie. People keep on talking about Barbosa and Jack in the 4th epic and what is there going between them? Nothing. So as people stated “it will be a buddy movie” NO. Pirate fans, like myself, don’t want a pansy pippy long stockings BUDDY BUDDY movie. We want thrill, love, and a good climax and plot. The 3rd one blew me away with its humor and effects. Even if some people theory that their bugget from last time was high and they may not concider going too big on the 4th, honey thats the movie business if you want it to be bigger than the other 3 you have to push for it. Some people say that 2 + 3 sucked. Well they didn’t. Keep your foolish opinions to yourself.
Now about will and elizabeth you need them. You can’t simply cut out a character let alone 2.. SO who was on the past 3 covers of the pirates? Well lets see *thinks* Barbosa, Jack, *gasp!* OH GOSH WILL AND ELIZABETH! Some people think its good to keep them out. You cant do that. We pirate fans love all of the characters and you need will and elizabeth to create the story. Let alone all the other 500 extra pirate characters. It’s like saying “I hate those pirate characters their worthless”. OK cut them out and what do you get? NO CREW. Everyone in this trilogy has their own special part and should all equally giver take part in this 4th movie
I do, however, agree that it may be hard to make a 4TH MOVIE. I dont want to watch a forth one where theres nothing going on. And it seems as everyones part was finished happily and its hard to go on from what they’ve finished(excpt 4 the will + lizzie baby)… So what my opinion..idea…thought is that if they make a 4th one it might suck.. and maybe they shouldn’t. I really want it to happen…. and maybe they will think of something great then I’ll be in tears… but I just think its going to be hard to create another movie.. all the plots were already done.. and if they bring in another bad guy like jones then they just have to keep on making them and maybe the characters dont want it to go on.. or maybe im just making no sence but thats what i think
gabb on 29 April 2008:
(read my other comment above)
…continue…
If will and elizabeth wern’t in the movie, they would be losing a whole lot of money. You people who say they don’t need to be in it are completely foolish for thinking that. Obviously dont have any sense for thinking that you have nothing to tell us why you don’t want them
BECAUSE THEIR GETTING OLD…No…
You need them You need to have all the main characters in there. Think about what you guys are saying honestly
Madeline on 29 April 2008:
Pirates wouldn’t be the same without Will and Elizabeth. I love Pirates and I really want to see a fourth movie but if they aren’t in it I won’t go and see it. The story wouldn’t be complete if they weren’t there. Also how many girls out there aren’t totally in love with Orlando Bloom and his hot british accent!!! I’m not saying that the other characters in the movies have their importance but without the romance between Will and Elizabeth the first Pirates movie never would have unfolded the way that it did. It would be like cutting huge holes in the universe that is Pirates of the Caribbean.
Jessie on 6 May 2008:
Now Madeline you’re right, somewhat. Your right about the first movie Will/Lizzie thing. But that was the first movie. This will be the 4th as you well know. It makes no sense to have them back. It wouldn’t be right. Their story is over. They had a kid, Will is the captain of the Dutchman, etc. As for they were the main characters, Gabb. No no no no no no no. This is not right. They are side characters. Jack is what the movie is all about. No one else. and i’m dissapointed that they didn’t focus on him more. It’s his turn to shine not Will and Elizabeth. This would make no sense at all. Focus on Jack and Barbossa’s characters but they should not be buddy buddy. Ew. Who wants friendly pirates. No one!! That will make the movie better. Will and Elizabeth will make it worse. I don’t like Orlando Bloom. He is not cute and he over does his character. It bothers me to no end.=p Orlando Bloom. Kiera Knightly isn’t my favorite person either. She kinda gets in the way. She doesn’t deserve to be pirate king. Give that trophie to Jack Sparrow, Captain of the Black Pearl. Not meak little Elizabeth Swann. Ugh.
Feel Free To Comment. Anything You Want To Say, Say it.
Jenny on 7 May 2008:
There is plent of room in the 4th movie because a majority of the third movie was taped in the water, Will cannot go on land the movie can take place in the water. As for Knightly I am pissed that she does not want to do the 4th. I wish I was an actress with a blockbuster movie where they wanted to do movie after movie, you couldn’t keep me away, I’d be on set before they even filmed it, but I’m sure that I would have separation anxity for my part that Depp has. Any way I will be there at the movies when it comes out. I will miss Will and Eliz. :’-(
Horserider on 10 May 2008:
Ummmmm…one thing, folks: the subtext of the movie STRONGLY hinted that the kid is Jack’s, not Will’s. Will is among the Undead, so think about it, he couldn’t father a kid. Physically impossible. There was a book published by Disney, called Keep To The Code I believe, that also pretty much spells it out: the kid’s name is Jack, and hints are dropped throughout as to the kid’s father’s identity. Jack’s credo is “Take what you can, and give nothing back” so who believes that he wouldn’t steal some quality time with Lizzie? We really don’t know what the crazy compass was pointing to at the end of AWE, very likely the island Lizzie is on. She NEVER promised to be faithful, much like Calypso didn’t…she only promised to keep Will’s heart safe and she fulfilled the expectation of being there for him once every ten years. I think Jack could very well have an adventure with her in part 4, though the subtext would have to be written well for adults to know what is really going on between them and still keep it Disney, but it could be done if piracy could also be made into a Disney movie. Does anyone think real pirates made good family men (or women)?
Horserider on 10 May 2008:
Oh, one other thing: I have ALWAYS read this series to be truly about Elizabeth, NOT Jack. That has always been one of the beautiful things about it: no simpering wimpy female character who needs a male to take care of her. The main female characters in this series are STRONG for a change, a nice break from the typical Disney fare of fairy tale princesses. It is why the series starts and ends with Elizabeth, ergo, I think to make 4 without her would be wrong indeed. And, she’s the only character Knightley has done justice by, so she shouldn’t be afraid of being typecast. Other roles I have seen her in have been weak at best.