Singer Has More To Say About First Class

xmen-first-class-2The last few days have brought the kind of news that has hailed Bryan Singer as the returning triumphant hero, here to save the X-Men franchise from its malaise. He certainly set the right tone for the franchise while he was in charge of it (although some questioned his take on Superman). Variety spoke to Singer about the X-Men: First Class project and its precocious cast of characters. Article writer Michael Fleming compares the movie to this year’s Star Trek reboot, and Singer kind of echoes those sentiments:

“This is the formative years of Xavier and Magneto, and the formation of the school and where there relationship took a wrong turn,” Singer said. “There is a romantic element, and some of the mutants from ‘X-Men’ will figure into the plot, though I don’t want to say which ones. There will be a lot of new mutants and a great villain.”

“Whether it’s ‘Batman,’ ‘Lord of the Rings’ or ‘Star Trek,’ if the characters are good, you want to see them on their journey even if you know their destiny,” Singer said. “I put myself in the fan’s position, and I think this story is something I would want to see, and so will they.”

Though Singer will once again regain creative control, he also made it seem like he was basically in line with the direction of the Josh Schwartz script, and so development should come together quickly. A 2011 release might be likely. But it’s not like X-Men fans aren’t getting their fix, with two or three other films on the horizon.



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  • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

    Seeing as how the original X-men aren’t the originals in this universe I’m curious as to how they’re going to do this. Cyclops, Jean, Storm, and Beast are all mentioned as originals. It’d be interesting to see the team dynamic with this group. But as I said in the other post, this will all hinge on the villain, and it better not be Magneto. Mr. Sinister, or the Revaers, or the Hellfire club or something but NOT Magneto.

  • Dedpool

    Seeing as how the original X-men aren’t the originals in this universe I’m curious as to how they’re going to do this. Cyclops, Jean, Storm, and Beast are all mentioned as originals. It’d be interesting to see the team dynamic with this group. But as I said in the other post, this will all hinge on the villain, and it better not be Magneto. Mr. Sinister, or the Revaers, or the Hellfire club or something but NOT Magneto.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    Definitely not the original class but Mr Sinister is always my bet when it comes to villains, but I have a little something to say about Mr Singer. Mr Singer, I am a fan of your work but felt that the first two x men, Though Enjoyable, were the most liked by everyone else but not me. Yes you gave us a cool nightcrawler scene but other than that, I think your attempts at movies with superheroes are merely movies that happen to have super heroes in them. While I dont think this is a bad approach and Im definitely going to catch hell for saying it. I felt X men 3 was the best of the movies even though lacking some of your film making qualities that would have made it great. You see Mr. Singer, I believe this can be fixed and my love for you making super hero movies can be restored, but you need to stop using the superpowers like a fan boy. In the first two X men movies, Wolverine only had his healing ability so that the character could be corny about it and back it up with a horrible line. (i.e. “put your seatbelt on….(goes flying through a window, stands up and lets rogue notice the heal…..Or wait!…gets shot in the head just so he can stand up and go wipe his face like a creed impersonator..Hey Bub). Stupid.

    In 3 his flesh was being ripped off as he struggled to get within stabbing range of the woman he loved. I cant think of one scene in any of the other movies that matched the intensity of that one scene. Nightcrawler was definitely sweet but the impact of his actions only helped take the direction further away from the character driving the story, and placed it back heavily on the whole alienation aspect. All in all this is not a super bad move, but there could be a balance.

    I dont know. Maybe I’m just bitching but I really felt, after watching all the movies again, that Mr Singer did exactly what he did with Superman Returns, to the X men series. Not to the fullest extent maybe, but along the same lines.

    In Short Mr Singer, You made a good movie, but a horrible superman movie. You made decent X men movies, but they could be better. Unlike most, you’re a great enough director to get a second shot, and the shock of seeing a well produced live action comic book movie isn’t going to get you over the hump this time.

    P.S. I know I went to see the first X men 3 times to get over the shock of a high budget super hero movie on the big screen. They just aren’t as rare anymore.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      WOW dude. Our first disagreement. I understand what you’re saying but no, I’m sorry. Xmen 1&2 were much better. Were they great? No. Good. YES. Very good infact. They handled the characters better, the action better, and had decent stories. X3 was literally them throwwing characters in for the sake of a scene. Showing Logan healing over and over would be boring. We know he heals. If they had gone balls out like that by part two what’s left for three or spinoffs? See? Hence him not having some spectacular heal in X-Men Origins. X3 had way too many disapointments. No Nightcrawler, horrible Juggernaut (S&M gear anyone), Angel and Colossus for no reason (Didn’t know Colossus’ power was to throw Wolverine), no Colossus VS. Juggernaut fight, MORE Magneto. The list goes on. I was hoping with a different director we’d get a new villain. Beast was litterally the best thing about that movie. That and the fight in the forrest. His healing was very cool, but still it was too little too late for me by then. The only issues i had with 1 & 2 are Sabretooth’s portrayal, and the misuse of Deathstrike.

      • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

        AHHH tis our first disagreement! haha, but I might actually stand corrected….Might. I for one agree with you on the poor use of Colossus and It makes me laugh everytime that he’s beside everyone in the showdown shot on the island but completely disappears for the rest of the battle. The only let down for me in the third movie was the fact that I didn’t get Colossus vs Juggernaut (and yes, The literal translation of juggernaut’s motto instead of his actual powers hurt a bit, BUT not as much as Lady Deathstrike being used and thrown away).

        Now this is where it gets tricky, 1&2 were better movies, but my standpoint is that 3 used the Mutants better. Plus I cant blame the third movie for not bringing in another villain because the end of the second movie pretty much scripted the story for them. This can’t be blamed on Singer I dont think but I might be able to find a way. ha! They did throw mutants in for the sake of having them and combining Marrow and Omega Red which was quite excellent if you ask me, but not as excellent as having the originals. The third movie had some misuses of minor characters, but I felt I was watching X men. The first two, I felt like I was watching a mixture of Fox morning cartoons (where wolverine gets pwned by everyone) mixed with a gay rights movement that overshadowed the characters and merely pushed them along toward a finale. (By the way, disclaimer so people dont eat me alive. I am not a hater of gays. I grew up in a beauty salon. lol)

        This may be our first disagreement but who knows, minds change. Im currently thinking back on the movies again as a whole, and I may have been out of line on a few things, but I think I have to stand by my statement, but maybe clarify a little more. 1 and 2 were better movies, but 3 felt more like what i wanted to see the actual characters go through.

        P.S. The thing that really ticked me off in the third one was the use of Multiple Man as a Decoy, instead of the first wave of attack. We shall discuss further Mr Pool. Its been taking me awhile to get to the site due to work and hampered movement. I’ll be in full swing soon.

        • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

          Madrox as the first wave of attck would’ve been complretely perfect.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    Definitely not the original class but Mr Sinister is always my bet when it comes to villains, but I have a little something to say about Mr Singer. Mr Singer, I am a fan of your work but felt that the first two x men, Though Enjoyable, were the most liked by everyone else but not me. Yes you gave us a cool nightcrawler scene but other than that, I think your attempts at movies with superheroes are merely movies that happen to have super heroes in them. While I dont think this is a bad approach and Im definitely going to catch hell for saying it. I felt X men 3 was the best of the movies even though lacking some of your film making qualities that would have made it great. You see Mr. Singer, I believe this can be fixed and my love for you making super hero movies can be restored, but you need to stop using the superpowers like a fan boy. In the first two X men movies, Wolverine only had his healing ability so that the character could be corny about it and back it up with a horrible line. (i.e. “put your seatbelt on….(goes flying through a window, stands up and lets rogue notice the heal…..Or wait!…gets shot in the head just so he can stand up and go wipe his face like a creed impersonator..Hey Bub). Stupid.

    In 3 his flesh was being ripped off as he struggled to get within stabbing range of the woman he loved. I cant think of one scene in any of the other movies that matched the intensity of that one scene. Nightcrawler was definitely sweet but the impact of his actions only helped take the direction further away from the character driving the story, and placed it back heavily on the whole alienation aspect. All in all this is not a super bad move, but there could be a balance.

    I dont know. Maybe I’m just bitching but I really felt, after watching all the movies again, that Mr Singer did exactly what he did with Superman Returns, to the X men series. Not to the fullest extent maybe, but along the same lines.

    In Short Mr Singer, You made a good movie, but a horrible superman movie. You made decent X men movies, but they could be better. Unlike most, you’re a great enough director to get a second shot, and the shock of seeing a well produced live action comic book movie isn’t going to get you over the hump this time.

    P.S. I know I went to see the first X men 3 times to get over the shock of a high budget super hero movie on the big screen. They just aren’t as rare anymore.

    • Dedpool

      WOW dude. Our first disagreement. I understand what you’re saying but no, I’m sorry. Xmen 1&2 were much better. Were they great? No. Good. YES. Very good infact. They handled the characters better, the action better, and had decent stories. X3 was literally them throwwing characters in for the sake of a scene. Showing Logan healing over and over would be boring. We know he heals. If they had gone balls out like that by part two what’s left for three or spinoffs? See? Hence him not having some spectacular heal in X-Men Origins. X3 had way too many disapointments. No Nightcrawler, horrible Juggernaut (S&M gear anyone), Angel and Colossus for no reason (Didn’t know Colossus’ power was to throw Wolverine), no Colossus VS. Juggernaut fight, MORE Magneto. The list goes on. I was hoping with a different director we’d get a new villain. Beast was litterally the best thing about that movie. That and the fight in the forrest. His healing was very cool, but still it was too little too late for me by then. The only issues i had with 1 & 2 are Sabretooth’s portrayal, and the misuse of Deathstrike.

      • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

        AHHH tis our first disagreement! haha, but I might actually stand corrected….Might. I for one agree with you on the poor use of Colossus and It makes me laugh everytime that he’s beside everyone in the showdown shot on the island but completely disappears for the rest of the battle. The only let down for me in the third movie was the fact that I didn’t get Colossus vs Juggernaut (and yes, The literal translation of juggernaut’s motto instead of his actual powers hurt a bit, BUT not as much as Lady Deathstrike being used and thrown away).

        Now this is where it gets tricky, 1&2 were better movies, but my standpoint is that 3 used the Mutants better. Plus I cant blame the third movie for not bringing in another villain because the end of the second movie pretty much scripted the story for them. This can’t be blamed on Singer I dont think but I might be able to find a way. ha! They did throw mutants in for the sake of having them and combining Marrow and Omega Red which was quite excellent if you ask me, but not as excellent as having the originals. The third movie had some misuses of minor characters, but I felt I was watching X men. The first two, I felt like I was watching a mixture of Fox morning cartoons (where wolverine gets pwned by everyone) mixed with a gay rights movement that overshadowed the characters and merely pushed them along toward a finale. (By the way, disclaimer so people dont eat me alive. I am not a hater of gays. I grew up in a beauty salon. lol)

        This may be our first disagreement but who knows, minds change. Im currently thinking back on the movies again as a whole, and I may have been out of line on a few things, but I think I have to stand by my statement, but maybe clarify a little more. 1 and 2 were better movies, but 3 felt more like what i wanted to see the actual characters go through.

        P.S. The thing that really ticked me off in the third one was the use of Multiple Man as a Decoy, instead of the first wave of attack. We shall discuss further Mr Pool. Its been taking me awhile to get to the site due to work and hampered movement. I’ll be in full swing soon.

        • Dedpool

          Madrox as the first wave of attck would’ve been complretely perfect.

  • Ryan

    I’m sure I speak for many when I say that the last guy posting here is crazy. X-Men was great, X2 was damn near perfect, X3 was the worst of the series (even though personally I feel that it is underrated and the level of contempt some feel for it is unfounded and, like the criticism of Superman Returns, based mostly on asinine fanboy quibbles about how certain characters were handled).
    A good comic book movie SHOULD be able to stand on its own merits without the comic book stuff in there. That’s what takes it from just being a fun comic movie, to being a really great film. Like The Dark Knight. If The Dark Knight was an original film that took out all the comic references, it would still be an amazing kick-arse film. I liked the way Synger handled the mutant powers in the first two films… in a natural and realistic way (minus the stupid climax of the first film where he had to figure out a way for them to use all their powers at the same time). I actually thought the climax of 3 was pretty corny in the use of Wolvie’s healing factor… I mean… he heals fast… but… Phoenix was completely obliterating normal humans in a second with a thought… there’s no way he can heal THAT fast. It was ridiculous.
    Anyway, the use of powers is really incidental to what makes a good film. A good film is about character and plot and Synger traditionally handles both very well.
    I agree that if the movie is about the first wrong turn taken in the relationship between Xavier and Magneto that Magneto should not be the villain, but maybe toward the end of the film he might do something to help the villain or jeopardize the X-Men’s mission, or maybe he refuses to help if the X-Men are fighting against someone who is trying to harm mankind.
    There should also be an aspect where the X-Men are still trying to keep their existence under wraps, since this would be before the events of the first and second films, when they essentially came out of the closet as mutants. So they’ll be trying to keep up the masquerade during the film.

    Mr Sinister would work as a villain, especially since if they use the true comic book origins you could have a scene with Scott in an orphanage meeting him, and that would work well with the whole “first class” motif since it would show one of the central characters before they became an X-Man.

    • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

      I agree that comic book powers dont make a great movie but thats why I make the point to say that 1 and 2 were better movies but 3 just felt like a better use of the powers. The powers in the first and second film were basically reminders that they weren’t “human”. I simply feel that the 3rd one actually dealt with people who had powers instead of people who might be a little strange.

      I think the point of his healing factor in the 3rd one was that there were 4 sides struggling against each other. Dark Phoemix would have sexploded Wolverine in an instant, but Jean actually cares (which is why he wasn’t sploded with full force…Not to mention the bad girl Dark Phoenix liked wolvie more than cyclops…Jean was allowing him to get close while one side of her was pushing away for survival hence non full force. Then there’s wolverine, who is trying to stab the woman he loves when he would probably just rather the world end and they be together. But wolverine is emo in the end and has to cause his own tragedy. lol!

      The Dark Knight was a great movie, but you can’t really bring batman into this in my opinion. Every story you write about batman is a story about a normal guy. To me, that is the genius of the character. He has no powers to fall back on. He is like the Tony Montana of Justice. All you get are his balls and his word, and most people dont survive past the balls. Batman is a totally different creature.

  • Ryan

    I’m sure I speak for many when I say that the last guy posting here is crazy. X-Men was great, X2 was damn near perfect, X3 was the worst of the series (even though personally I feel that it is underrated and the level of contempt some feel for it is unfounded and, like the criticism of Superman Returns, based mostly on asinine fanboy quibbles about how certain characters were handled).
    A good comic book movie SHOULD be able to stand on its own merits without the comic book stuff in there. That’s what takes it from just being a fun comic movie, to being a really great film. Like The Dark Knight. If The Dark Knight was an original film that took out all the comic references, it would still be an amazing kick-arse film. I liked the way Synger handled the mutant powers in the first two films… in a natural and realistic way (minus the stupid climax of the first film where he had to figure out a way for them to use all their powers at the same time). I actually thought the climax of 3 was pretty corny in the use of Wolvie’s healing factor… I mean… he heals fast… but… Phoenix was completely obliterating normal humans in a second with a thought… there’s no way he can heal THAT fast. It was ridiculous.
    Anyway, the use of powers is really incidental to what makes a good film. A good film is about character and plot and Synger traditionally handles both very well.
    I agree that if the movie is about the first wrong turn taken in the relationship between Xavier and Magneto that Magneto should not be the villain, but maybe toward the end of the film he might do something to help the villain or jeopardize the X-Men’s mission, or maybe he refuses to help if the X-Men are fighting against someone who is trying to harm mankind.
    There should also be an aspect where the X-Men are still trying to keep their existence under wraps, since this would be before the events of the first and second films, when they essentially came out of the closet as mutants. So they’ll be trying to keep up the masquerade during the film.

    Mr Sinister would work as a villain, especially since if they use the true comic book origins you could have a scene with Scott in an orphanage meeting him, and that would work well with the whole “first class” motif since it would show one of the central characters before they became an X-Man.

    • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

      I agree that comic book powers dont make a great movie but thats why I make the point to say that 1 and 2 were better movies but 3 just felt like a better use of the powers. The powers in the first and second film were basically reminders that they weren’t “human”. I simply feel that the 3rd one actually dealt with people who had powers instead of people who might be a little strange.

      I think the point of his healing factor in the 3rd one was that there were 4 sides struggling against each other. Dark Phoemix would have sexploded Wolverine in an instant, but Jean actually cares (which is why he wasn’t sploded with full force…Not to mention the bad girl Dark Phoenix liked wolvie more than cyclops…Jean was allowing him to get close while one side of her was pushing away for survival hence non full force. Then there’s wolverine, who is trying to stab the woman he loves when he would probably just rather the world end and they be together. But wolverine is emo in the end and has to cause his own tragedy. lol!

      The Dark Knight was a great movie, but you can’t really bring batman into this in my opinion. Every story you write about batman is a story about a normal guy. To me, that is the genius of the character. He has no powers to fall back on. He is like the Tony Montana of Justice. All you get are his balls and his word, and most people dont survive past the balls. Batman is a totally different creature.

  • erick

    I wonder if this is going to be a part of the greater Marvel film continuity that Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Capt America movies exist in

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      Nope owned by two different production companies. Those are universal I beleive and Fox owns X-men.

      • ulik

        When other studios realize they can also make money form cross-overs, they’ll start doing it. In the music industry it’s donw all the time it’s called “courtesy of”. One musician may be contracted to “Sony” and may guest appear on another album of an artist contracted by “Arista”. They have to pay a fee in upon contract or and in the residuals. But everyone usually benefits because it has been shown that record sales go way up when a well known artist features on another’s album. A prime example is Carlos Santana’s last two album’s. “Smooth” being the his greatest selling album of all time and had the most “courtesy of” or “guest featured artists”. Fox is so damned greedy though that they want to hoard everything without realizing the bigger picture of how cameos can help they’re reputation and make them more money and it’s also fear of getting their “leased” characters taken back to Marvel. If the Incredible Hulk or Thor showed up in an X-Men or Spider-Man film they’d make millions more cuz that’s what people want to see. But like you said, they may never do it because of being blinded by their own greed and stupidity.

        • ulik

          Cross-overs bring more exposure too. If you’ve never heard of an artist and they are guest staring on an album, if you like that artist, now you know about them although on another artist’s album but now you can investigate more about the guest artist and buy their music too. It could work the same in these movies. It’s all about sitting down and talking about it an d doing the paper work.

  • erick

    I wonder if this is going to be a part of the greater Marvel film continuity that Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Capt America movies exist in

    • Dedpool

      Nope owned by two different production companies. Those are universal I beleive and Fox owns X-men.

      • ulik

        When other studios realize they can also make money form cross-overs, they’ll start doing it. In the music industry it’s donw all the time it’s called “courtesy of”. One musician may be contracted to “Sony” and may guest appear on another album of an artist contracted by “Arista”. They have to pay a fee in upon contract or and in the residuals. But everyone usually benefits because it has been shown that record sales go way up when a well known artist features on another’s album. A prime example is Carlos Santana’s last two album’s. “Smooth” being the his greatest selling album of all time and had the most “courtesy of” or “guest featured artists”. Fox is so damned greedy though that they want to hoard everything without realizing the bigger picture of how cameos can help they’re reputation and make them more money and it’s also fear of getting their “leased” characters taken back to Marvel. If the Incredible Hulk or Thor showed up in an X-Men or Spider-Man film they’d make millions more cuz that’s what people want to see. But like you said, they may never do it because of being blinded by their own greed and stupidity.

        • ulik

          Cross-overs bring more exposure too. If you’ve never heard of an artist and they are guest staring on an album, if you like that artist, now you know about them although on another artist’s album but now you can investigate more about the guest artist and buy their music too. It could work the same in these movies. It’s all about sitting down and talking about it an d doing the paper work.

  • ulik

    Easy fix on this one. Begin this movie with the ending of X-Men 3. Beast is his secret laboratory working a secret experiment. Bobby and Warren discover it by accident,start meddling with it, Hank steps in and catches them and says “No get away from that machine you don’t know what your tampering with”!!! startling them causing one of them to trigger the machine by mistake. Hank lunges over to try and stop the machine but its too late…. The machine turns back time but with a time paradox. Originally Hank was creating the machine to undo all that has been done with the arrival of the Dark Phoenix in X-Men 3 but the machine was unfinished. The villain in this movie should be Ahmad Farouk also known as “The Shadow King” portrayed by Forest Whitaker. Thunder-bird should also be introduced in the middle of this movie but dies at the end sacrifing himself to save the team. Charles becomes partially paralyzed but Magneto blames Charles for Thunder-Bird’s death for so-called holding back on his power and not killing the Shadow King when he told him to etc. The ending should show when Xavier and Eric part ways. A sub-story of The Shadow King should lead to Storm and eventually Apacolypse in the future.

  • ulik

    Easy fix on this one. Begin this movie with the ending of X-Men 3. Beast is his secret laboratory working a secret experiment. Bobby and Warren discover it by accident,start meddling with it, Hank steps in and catches them and says “No get away from that machine you don’t know what your tampering with”!!! startling them causing one of them to trigger the machine by mistake. Hank lunges over to try and stop the machine but its too late…. The machine turns back time but with a time paradox. Originally Hank was creating the machine to undo all that has been done with the arrival of the Dark Phoenix in X-Men 3 but the machine was unfinished. The villain in this movie should be Ahmad Farouk also known as “The Shadow King” portrayed by Forest Whitaker. Thunder-bird should also be introduced in the middle of this movie but dies at the end sacrifing himself to save the team. Charles becomes partially paralyzed but Magneto blames Charles for Thunder-Bird’s death for so-called holding back on his power and not killing the Shadow King when he told him to etc. The ending should show when Xavier and Eric part ways. A sub-story of The Shadow King should lead to Storm and eventually Apacolypse in the future.