Sony and Raimi Can’t Decide on a Spidey Villain

As much as they like the idea of Sam Raimi returning to direct the fourth (and possibly fifth) installment of their mega franchise “Spider-Man”, Sony is apparently a little weary of the director’s choice of villains for the fourth movie. According to the trades, while Raimi would like the Vulture to be Spider-Man’s latest villain, Sony is thinking more of The Black Cat as a villain and potential love interest. As a result, the film may be knocked from its expected May 11, 2011 release date.

Word is, the source of the conflict stems from the last “Spider-Man” movie, which, let’s face it, wasn’t exactly the franchise’s high point. Its many problems have been documented here and elsewhere, so I won’t get into it again. The problem, apparently, was that Raimi wanted to use the Vulture in conjunction with Sandman back on the third part, but the studio pushed him to swap the old winged geezer with Venom instead. Now that he’s back for part four, Raimi is once again pushing to get the Vulture in the movie, while Sony isn’t so sure. The amusing thing about Raimi wanting the Vulture for “Spider-Man 3″ is that, well, it probably wouldn’t have mattered. The movie would still have had one villain too many.

So what’s the solution? Whatever it is, they better come up with it quick, because production on “Spider-Man 4″ was scheduled to commence this summer. Of course, it’s just a script issue, and as soon as Raimi and Sony agree on a villain (or two), it wouldn’t take a writer too long to bang out an appropriate script to get the film ready for a summer start date. Some high-profile names have already worked on various drafts of the script, from Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright David Lindsay-Abaire to Gary Ross. There has to be something there worth filming by summer.

So who is right here? Does Raimi wanting The Vulture sound better than Sony wanting the Black Cat? I guess we’ll find out when “Spider-Man 4″ lands in 2011. Maybe.

Really? An old geezer with wings or me? This is, like, a hard choice?



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  • ulik

    Well my pick for the Sinister Six would be 1)Hobgoblin 2)Vulture 3) Mysterio 4)Scorpion 5)Chameleon 6) Elektro. I think bringing in Bruce Campbell in SM 4 as the Chameleon is the best idea. He’s already been showing up and disguising himself,why not go all the way with it as The Chameleon and just let him be in the background doing stuff but not literally engaging or interacting with Spider-Man, just watching and setting things up and surprise the audience with him being Kraven’s brother and wanting to get revenge on Spidey after Kraven gets killed. As far as Carnage, he’s definitely by far not my favorite BUT.. Raimi is a film horror movie director, Carnage is the perfect character too bring in some REAL horror into this franchise and make Peter grow up REAL fast because of the seriousness of this villain. Small cameos should be in these movies too. Hammerhead and Tombstone are two quick cameos that I want to see. Also SM 4 & 5 need two “quick beat up” villains. So I say Rhyno in SM4 and Shocker in SM 5. Lastly there isn’t enough ethnic diversity in this franchise so I think that The Prowler is the best character to bring lastly into the franchise as Spidey’s greatest ally. Robbie Robinson is the only “minority” and he only got like two lines. Even the “Man-Spider” could be a great horror story for Raimi with Morbius and Man-Wolf, but those would have to come way down the line or be featured in a spin-off maybe for “The Prowler” with Spidey doing a cameo in his movie.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      I like the idea of bringing a horror element to the series. And I think Morbius, Lizard, and the Man-SPider are fantastic ideas for the movies. However I just don;t see it happening. As comic fans we have a long relationship with the character, supporting characters, and villains. We know that Robbie is just as important as JJ. We know storylines and charatcer arcs, and motivations. But alas Hollywood misses that stuff and goes for spectacle.

      As for Rhino and Shocker carrying their own films as villains, I don’t see it. Shocker is just below Electro and I think Electro would make a better main villain. Rhino is too stupid to do anything on his own, hence having him just be a way to show off some of SPidey’s moves as well.

      Prowler is a great and very underused character. I actually was working on something with him Post Civil War. Making him into a draker, almost Batman like character. Still like may run with it.

  • ulik

    Well my pick for the Sinister Six would be 1)Hobgoblin 2)Vulture 3) Mysterio 4)Scorpion 5)Chameleon 6) Elektro. I think bringing in Bruce Campbell in SM 4 as the Chameleon is the best idea. He’s already been showing up and disguising himself,why not go all the way with it as The Chameleon and just let him be in the background doing stuff but not literally engaging or interacting with Spider-Man, just watching and setting things up and surprise the audience with him being Kraven’s brother and wanting to get revenge on Spidey after Kraven gets killed. As far as Carnage, he’s definitely by far not my favorite BUT.. Raimi is a film horror movie director, Carnage is the perfect character too bring in some REAL horror into this franchise and make Peter grow up REAL fast because of the seriousness of this villain. Small cameos should be in these movies too. Hammerhead and Tombstone are two quick cameos that I want to see. Also SM 4 & 5 need two “quick beat up” villains. So I say Rhyno in SM4 and Shocker in SM 5. Lastly there isn’t enough ethnic diversity in this franchise so I think that The Prowler is the best character to bring lastly into the franchise as Spidey’s greatest ally. Robbie Robinson is the only “minority” and he only got like two lines. Even the “Man-Spider” could be a great horror story for Raimi with Morbius and Man-Wolf, but those would have to come way down the line or be featured in a spin-off maybe for “The Prowler” with Spidey doing a cameo in his movie.

    • Dedpool

      I like the idea of bringing a horror element to the series. And I think Morbius, Lizard, and the Man-SPider are fantastic ideas for the movies. However I just don;t see it happening. As comic fans we have a long relationship with the character, supporting characters, and villains. We know that Robbie is just as important as JJ. We know storylines and charatcer arcs, and motivations. But alas Hollywood misses that stuff and goes for spectacle.

      As for Rhino and Shocker carrying their own films as villains, I don’t see it. Shocker is just below Electro and I think Electro would make a better main villain. Rhino is too stupid to do anything on his own, hence having him just be a way to show off some of SPidey’s moves as well.

      Prowler is a great and very underused character. I actually was working on something with him Post Civil War. Making him into a draker, almost Batman like character. Still like may run with it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/xin0 xino

    that picture below the article shows Spiderman coming to taste Blackcat’s nice @ss:P

    Anyway man, Blackcat being the villain please don’t:/ Again the true identity of Black Cat will flirt with Peter and once again, him and Mary J will fight for love:/

  • http://www.youtube.com/xin0 xino

    that picture below the article shows Spiderman coming to taste Blackcat’s nice @ss:P

    Anyway man, Blackcat being the villain please don’t:/ Again the true identity of Black Cat will flirt with Peter and once again, him and Mary J will fight for love:/

  • http://www.youtube.com/xin0 xino

    Ulik, you make strong point.
    What happened to Peter’s smartness? he’s a farking geek for goodness sake. In the 90s cartoon, he always solve half of the problem with his brain because he knows science. But in these movies we haven’t even seen any of that.

    Yea..bring in Lizard and call it Spiderman 4

  • http://www.youtube.com/xin0 xino

    Ulik, you make strong point.
    What happened to Peter’s smartness? he’s a farking geek for goodness sake. In the 90s cartoon, he always solve half of the problem with his brain because he knows science. But in these movies we haven’t even seen any of that.

    Yea..bring in Lizard and call it Spiderman 4