Sam Raimi Exits Spider-Man 4, Franchise Reboot in 2012

The big news of today is that “Spider Man 4″, originally punched in for a Summer 2011 release, has been squashed. Director Sam Raimi couldn’t get the script together in time and thought that 2011 was just too close to get a movie, hopefully way better than Spider Man 3, into theatres. So he’s walked away.

Sony has decided instead to reboot the series, taking Peter Parker back to his roots as a teenage web crawler, girl crazy, nerdy and just getting used to the whole super hero drama. This means of course we get a whole new cast. No Tobey, no Kirsten and also, sadly, no John Malkovich as the Vulture.

Here’s the choice bits of the Sony Press Release

Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager grappling with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises.

In my opinion, the series needs to get back to basics. No more singing and dancing. Please. Thanks to /Film for the scoop via Nikki Finke.



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  • http://www.youtube.com/xin0 xino

    DAMN MAN!

    It’s ironic isn’t it.
    How Sam delivered a perfect Spiderman movie, SM1 & 2.
    But they hated him and want to replace him with is bad version of SM 3:/

    Going back to the classic routes is also fine. That means, we’ll we see Peter using his science skills to the works? Will he be using web cartridges again?
    Will Mary Jane have a deep visible red hair? cuz Dust’s hair wasn’t too red:/

  • http://www.youtube.com/xin0 xino

    DAMN MAN!

    It’s ironic isn’t it.
    How Sam delivered a perfect Spiderman movie, SM1 & 2.
    But they hated him and want to replace him with is bad version of SM 3:/

    Going back to the classic routes is also fine. That means, we’ll we see Peter using his science skills to the works? Will he be using web cartridges again?
    Will Mary Jane have a deep visible red hair? cuz Dust’s hair wasn’t too red:/

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    This is what I have to come home too after a long night of working? This is the biggest bunch of crap ever! Even if you hated 3, they established Spider-man very well. They are basically choosing to go back to square one instead of taking on the real grit of the character and progressing him into a man.
    As far as Spiderman 3 being a let down…Raimi didn’t even want Venom in the movie because he felt venom was a trilogy in itself and he didn’t want to get into it if he couldn’t do it right. However the fans kept whining about it, and the studio heads told him that he HAD to put Venom in the movie. This decision single handedly set the third movie up for failure because they had no way to play everyone single persons story up.

    SONY you are making a big mistake, and if you’re smart, you will back off and let the other hero movies come out. Dont overwrite the great things that this franchise has done, and learn from the mistakes in the future to make a better character. I don’t want to see the damn origin again.

    • joni

      Raimi mistake is that he forced sandman story into number 3, he should focus on Venom instead. Sure thing SpiderMan3 will be better,

    • http://www.visualizeasian.com/ Suchet

      im not sure – I think they needed to reboot as a lot of fans weren’t that impressed with Spider-man 1, 2 or 3 – For a start they took away the web cartridge thing that had been a part of Spidey’s history in the original comics and also a thrill factor (spidey running out of web fluid mid air!)

      Also in the original comics Peter Parker was special – he was a nerd yes – but he had the genius to create something as amazing as web fluid (hardly believable but so is a guy running up and down skyscrapers).

      Anyway the third spidey movie was just smack bang jokes and action and a bit of drama thrown in for good measure- It Wasn’t great – In fact none of them were that faithful to the comics – Spider-Man 2 was ok but the original Spider-Man, it was like they totally ignored certain stuff that needed to be in there – it was a crime to totally run past the high school drama stuff of the earlier Spidey comics – Im not sure why they did that – that deserved a whole movie at least. It would have been so much more interesting seeing the adventures of Spidey while he was in his high school years like in the comic books.

      So a reboot is required and SONY have got their thinking caps on to please the hardcore fans.

      • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

        I dunno. I agree with most of what you’re saying but definitely not all of it. The major thing is the high school setting.

        You have to remember that these movies aren’t being made for JUST the hardcore fan. It’s a business and you have to try to appeal to a mainstream audience as well. This actually leads into a couple of things you said. First of all, no one over the age of 15-18 tops will want to sit through Peter’s High school woes. I’m sorry but Spiderman 10021 (making fun of 90210 here) is NOT for the masses. Granted I think the film should strat in his Junior year, but it shouldn’t focus on school other than his scientific genius, and his relationship with his friends and teachers. And even that shoudln’t be the focus. There’s a reason that before “Spectacular Spiderman” even the cartoons never delved into his HS years and started with him in college. “SS” is agreat cartoon that has taken the best of the movies, classic Kirby/Lee/Romita era comics, and Ulitmate comics and made a coherent universe that feels like clssic Spidey repurposed for today. It has the benefit of multiple episodes for character development and story arcs. However in a movie you’re pressed into a 2 hour limit so you don’t have that luxury. Also the maistream audience is going to have issues with a 16 year old creating a chemical substance capable of what web fluid can do. I like what they did in Ultimate SPidey, making it something his dad had been working on that he perfected. If they do keep him in HS, then “SS” is the template they need to follow to a point.

        As for the running out of web fluid issue. Yeah not all that great or exciting. After Brand New Day in the comics returned his web shooters, he seemed to consistantly keep runing out of fluid like an amature. that’s really a one trick pony for the movies as if it happens more than once people will be like “Aw come on! Again? How does he keep forgetting to carry more?”

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    This is what I have to come home too after a long night of working? This is the biggest bunch of crap ever! Even if you hated 3, they established Spider-man very well. They are basically choosing to go back to square one instead of taking on the real grit of the character and progressing him into a man.
    As far as Spiderman 3 being a let down…Raimi didn’t even want Venom in the movie because he felt venom was a trilogy in itself and he didn’t want to get into it if he couldn’t do it right. However the fans kept whining about it, and the studio heads told him that he HAD to put Venom in the movie. This decision single handedly set the third movie up for failure because they had no way to play everyone single persons story up.

    SONY you are making a big mistake, and if you’re smart, you will back off and let the other hero movies come out. Dont overwrite the great things that this franchise has done, and learn from the mistakes in the future to make a better character. I don’t want to see the damn origin again.

    • joni

      Raimi mistake is that he forced sandman story into number 3, he should focus on Venom instead. Sure thing SpiderMan3 will be better,

    • http://www.visualizeasian.com Suchet

      im not sure – I think they needed to reboot as a lot of fans weren’t that impressed with Spider-man 1, 2 or 3 – For a start they took away the web cartridge thing that had been a part of Spidey’s history in the original comics and also a thrill factor (spidey running out of web fluid mid air!)

      Also in the original comics Peter Parker was special – he was a nerd yes – but he had the genius to create something as amazing as web fluid (hardly believable but so is a guy running up and down skyscrapers).

      Anyway the third spidey movie was just smack bang jokes and action and a bit of drama thrown in for good measure- It Wasn’t great – In fact none of them were that faithful to the comics – Spider-Man 2 was ok but the original Spider-Man, it was like they totally ignored certain stuff that needed to be in there – it was a crime to totally run past the high school drama stuff of the earlier Spidey comics – Im not sure why they did that – that deserved a whole movie at least. It would have been so much more interesting seeing the adventures of Spidey while he was in his high school years like in the comic books.

      So a reboot is required and SONY have got their thinking caps on to please the hardcore fans.

      • Dedpool

        I dunno. I agree with most of what you’re saying but definitely not all of it. The major thing is the high school setting.

        You have to remember that these movies aren’t being made for JUST the hardcore fan. It’s a business and you have to try to appeal to a mainstream audience as well. This actually leads into a couple of things you said. First of all, no one over the age of 15-18 tops will want to sit through Peter’s High school woes. I’m sorry but Spiderman 10021 (making fun of 90210 here) is NOT for the masses. Granted I think the film should strat in his Junior year, but it shouldn’t focus on school other than his scientific genius, and his relationship with his friends and teachers. And even that shoudln’t be the focus. There’s a reason that before “Spectacular Spiderman” even the cartoons never delved into his HS years and started with him in college. “SS” is agreat cartoon that has taken the best of the movies, classic Kirby/Lee/Romita era comics, and Ulitmate comics and made a coherent universe that feels like clssic Spidey repurposed for today. It has the benefit of multiple episodes for character development and story arcs. However in a movie you’re pressed into a 2 hour limit so you don’t have that luxury. Also the maistream audience is going to have issues with a 16 year old creating a chemical substance capable of what web fluid can do. I like what they did in Ultimate SPidey, making it something his dad had been working on that he perfected. If they do keep him in HS, then “SS” is the template they need to follow to a point.

        As for the running out of web fluid issue. Yeah not all that great or exciting. After Brand New Day in the comics returned his web shooters, he seemed to consistantly keep runing out of fluid like an amature. that’s really a one trick pony for the movies as if it happens more than once people will be like “Aw come on! Again? How does he keep forgetting to carry more?”

  • Spiderkid

    Finally! Its been my dream to wanna do it! Spider 1 and 2 was great but You cant kill off Venom and you cant kill off green goblin. Its spideys arch nemesis’. Lets hope Fisk and Tombstone and bring the first villian to face spidey Chameleon! Stick to the correct storyline and maybe we’ll have something as close to avatar and better than the dark knight. To attract a better audience i hate to say it but Zac Efron to play spidey… To some this might sound like disapointing news but to myself its FREEAKIN EXCELLENT NEWS! bummer we have to wait another 2 years. And lets also hope we preview some other marvel characters!

    • http://www.zackthefag.org/ Zack Fagron

      zack efron!!!!! are you fucking kidding me. I hope you enjoy that huge penis in your mouth because you just established you’re a fag!
      Zack will kill the credibility of spider man. He looks nothing like Parker….you are a homo.

      • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

        They killed the Goblin in the comics for yrs before bringing him back. Had Harry be him for a bit but it wasn’t the same. Great stories though.

  • Spiderkid

    Finally! Its been my dream to wanna do it! Spider 1 and 2 was great but You cant kill off Venom and you cant kill off green goblin. Its spideys arch nemesis’. Lets hope Fisk and Tombstone and bring the first villian to face spidey Chameleon! Stick to the correct storyline and maybe we’ll have something as close to avatar and better than the dark knight. To attract a better audience i hate to say it but Zac Efron to play spidey… To some this might sound like disapointing news but to myself its FREEAKIN EXCELLENT NEWS! bummer we have to wait another 2 years. And lets also hope we preview some other marvel characters!

    • http://www.zackthefag.org Zack Fagron

      zack efron!!!!! are you fucking kidding me. I hope you enjoy that huge penis in your mouth because you just established you’re a fag!
      Zack will kill the credibility of spider man. He looks nothing like Parker….you are a homo.

      • Dedpool

        They killed the Goblin in the comics for yrs before bringing him back. Had Harry be him for a bit but it wasn’t the same. Great stories though.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    Not to mention that if they go back to him being in high school there is always the threat of them doing so in order to cash in on the teen swing. Something about this just screams twilight spiderman reboot. I dont know why. they didn’t say it, but i cant think of one good reason to go back to the origin. Venom looked like he was killed, but how many times have we seen that in the comics? Harry being killed we’ve seen i think at least 3 times now, especially to bring in better characters like the Hobgoblin. I can’t think of one good thing that can come from rebooting the franchise. Some people are saying its so Marvel gets the rights back to the property and can go in their own direction, but I dont see a reason to go back with the amount of things that have been done right.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      Hey I think a reboot just may be in order and here’s why.

      Although Raimi did an absolutely amazing job establishing the character and the world there was just something missing to me. Everytime I go back an watch the first and especially the second films I find myself just watching the action. The supporting cast was the best thing about this movie after the casting of the villains. It’s alot like watching the Burton Batman films for me now. I like them but they could be better, and the villains are the best thing about them. Tobey as Peter was good at first but then they really focused too much on his love life and his everyday problems, without the balance the release of being SPiderman brings him. Sure we get a few “WHOOO’s” as he swings through the city, and they should keep that, but where’s the witty banter. Where’s the quips? Wehre’s the BIG thing that differentiates Peter from Spidey? Everything was so woe is me. Then the musical numbers and montages nd stuff started. Then Emo Peter. Then an actual dance scene? I mean come on. The humor should come from Spidey cracking wise on his opponents. Not from strange musical numbers dreamt up by Raimi. I say go with Jospeh Gordon Levit for the role, or EMile Hirsch (Speed Racer) or Michael Angarano (Forbidden Kingdom). Doubtful for any of them though. And here’s the kicker. Are we gonna see the Goblin again? Or Doc OCk…

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    Not to mention that if they go back to him being in high school there is always the threat of them doing so in order to cash in on the teen swing. Something about this just screams twilight spiderman reboot. I dont know why. they didn’t say it, but i cant think of one good reason to go back to the origin. Venom looked like he was killed, but how many times have we seen that in the comics? Harry being killed we’ve seen i think at least 3 times now, especially to bring in better characters like the Hobgoblin. I can’t think of one good thing that can come from rebooting the franchise. Some people are saying its so Marvel gets the rights back to the property and can go in their own direction, but I dont see a reason to go back with the amount of things that have been done right.

    • Dedpool

      Hey I think a reboot just may be in order and here’s why.

      Although Raimi did an absolutely amazing job establishing the character and the world there was just something missing to me. Everytime I go back an watch the first and especially the second films I find myself just watching the action. The supporting cast was the best thing about this movie after the casting of the villains. It’s alot like watching the Burton Batman films for me now. I like them but they could be better, and the villains are the best thing about them. Tobey as Peter was good at first but then they really focused too much on his love life and his everyday problems, without the balance the release of being SPiderman brings him. Sure we get a few “WHOOO’s” as he swings through the city, and they should keep that, but where’s the witty banter. Where’s the quips? Wehre’s the BIG thing that differentiates Peter from Spidey? Everything was so woe is me. Then the musical numbers and montages nd stuff started. Then Emo Peter. Then an actual dance scene? I mean come on. The humor should come from Spidey cracking wise on his opponents. Not from strange musical numbers dreamt up by Raimi. I say go with Jospeh Gordon Levit for the role, or EMile Hirsch (Speed Racer) or Michael Angarano (Forbidden Kingdom). Doubtful for any of them though. And here’s the kicker. Are we gonna see the Goblin again? Or Doc OCk…