Warner Bros. Wants Christopher Nolan to Help Them out with Superman. Pretty Please?

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Nolan + Superman = fanboys ruin pants. Could it be true? Could Christopher Nolan, the man who resurrected Batman from the ashes of rubber nipples and cheesy villains actually be involved in developing a “Superman” reboot for Warner Bros.? Yes, it could be, at least according to Deadline. According to the site, the WB has asked Nolan to “mentor” the development of a new “Superman” franchise for them.

This won’t be a sequel to Bryan Singer’s 2006 “Superman Returns”, but rather a completely new take on the franchise. Basically, a reboot. While it’s doubtful Nolan would also direct (again, the site mentions that the WB is looking for Nolan’s help to “mentor” the picture, which I assume means developing and then producing, so the WB can then later proclaim in the ads, “From the makers of ‘Batman Begins’…” i.e. Nolan), there is no word on Bryan Singer returning, or star Brandon Routh slipping on the tights again, though both are possibilities. At this point, the WB hasn’t ruled anything out.

Here’s the deal: I think this would be a bad idea. Superman is not Batman. You can’t “gritty up” Superman. That’s just not who he is. He can fly and deflect bullets off his eyeballs, for God’s sake. He doesn’t have a whole lot of limitations. If you don’t like Superman the way he is — the squeaky clean boy scout God-like figure that he has been portrayed in the films — then you just don’t like Superman. Which is why I don’t particularly care for the character, but even I know there’s just no way to “dirty” him up into a flying version of Batman. They tried that in “Superman 3″, remember?

Still, the idea of someone like Nolan taking a shot at Superman is intriguing…

He's a big boy scout. Deal with it.

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  • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

    “I think this would be a bad idea. Superman is not Batman. You can’t “gritty up” Superman. That’s just not who he is. He can fly and deflect bullets off his eyeballs, for God’s sake. He doesn’t have a whole lot of limitations. If you don’t like Superman the way he is — the squeaky clean boy scout God-like figure that he has been portrayed in the films — then you just don’t like Superman.”

    Absolutely untrue!I’m not a great fan of his, but some of the best Superman stories in comics have been darker ones. “Our World at War,” was great and it was a side of Superman we hadn’t really seen. Also when he fought a group called the Elite, who were killing criminals and despots, he made the world believe he could only beat tham by sinking to their tactics, but he hadn’t and it was an awesome story. They made their first appearance in the story “What’s So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?”, published in Action Comics #775 (March 2001). The story, which was voted number 1 in Wizard Magazine’s Top Ten Comics of the Decade. Best episodes with him in Justice League are when he actually gets to let loose, and were all kinda dark. “For the Man Who Has Everything,” where Mongul had him seeing a fake reality where he had a family on Krypton, before Batman snaps him out of it, was a crazy episode and saw Superman at his darkest for the series. WHenever he fought someone that was physically his equal it was a darker epsiode, and I think that’s what the movie needs. Superman doesn’t have to be dark, nor does the world, but it should refelct some of the darker issues that have come about. Superman should be the symbol for all that’s good and right, but that symbol needs to be challened and therein lies the darkness and grit.

  • Dedpool

    “I think this would be a bad idea. Superman is not Batman. You can’t “gritty up” Superman. That’s just not who he is. He can fly and deflect bullets off his eyeballs, for God’s sake. He doesn’t have a whole lot of limitations. If you don’t like Superman the way he is — the squeaky clean boy scout God-like figure that he has been portrayed in the films — then you just don’t like Superman.”

    Absolutely untrue!I’m not a great fan of his, but some of the best Superman stories in comics have been darker ones. “Our World at War,” was great and it was a side of Superman we hadn’t really seen. Also when he fought a group called the Elite, who were killing criminals and despots, he made the world believe he could only beat tham by sinking to their tactics, but he hadn’t and it was an awesome story. They made their first appearance in the story “What’s So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?”, published in Action Comics #775 (March 2001). The story, which was voted number 1 in Wizard Magazine’s Top Ten Comics of the Decade. Best episodes with him in Justice League are when he actually gets to let loose, and were all kinda dark. “For the Man Who Has Everything,” where Mongul had him seeing a fake reality where he had a family on Krypton, before Batman snaps him out of it, was a crazy episode and saw Superman at his darkest for the series. WHenever he fought someone that was physically his equal it was a darker epsiode, and I think that’s what the movie needs. Superman doesn’t have to be dark, nor does the world, but it should refelct some of the darker issues that have come about. Superman should be the symbol for all that’s good and right, but that symbol needs to be challened and therein lies the darkness and grit.

  • j.james

    I agree Dedpool. Im really not a fan of Superman myself, and i hate to say it, but im not sure we really need anymore Superman films..Its just seems as if he’s become kinda tired over the years. I may be wrong but, if another Superman film came out im not sure i would be interested, hoenstly. I agree with your statement that Superman was most interesting in his darker stories and when he had to face adversity. Something else needs to be brought to the story of Superman on film. The same old cliche Superman that most people know him as, is just boring. Totally on point with your last 4-5 sentences Dedpool, i agree totally!

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      HE NEEDS SOMEONE TO FIGHT!!!That’s the biggest issue. Not since SUperman II has he had someone to challenge him. I don’t count that shitty Nuclear Man guy in Superman IV. I mean really. Is Brainiac, or Bizarro, or Metallo that hard to do? I mean really. Have Luthor try and clone Superman, and it fail and boom Bizarro. But it should be a creepy, dark Bizarro, not just a backwards speaking morron. I mean this guy should be backwards but it should be terrifying. Like his idea of saving people is to kill them…with his freeze vision or fire breath. Or do the metallo story, with Luthor discovering a new metal, and creating a robot body, and then one of his cronies is fatally injured in a heist during an altercation with SUpes. Luthor saves him by transfering his brain into the new body, with the intent on using the guys hatred of Supes to send him to kill him. Or Brianiac could be pretty much searching for the last kryptonian as he saw the rocket leave before the planet exploded, but has been too busy collecting otehr planets and information untl he gets to Earth where he realizes SUpes is infact his long lost query. Just some thoughts.

  • j.james

    I agree Dedpool. Im really not a fan of Superman myself, and i hate to say it, but im not sure we really need anymore Superman films..Its just seems as if he’s become kinda tired over the years. I may be wrong but, if another Superman film came out im not sure i would be interested, hoenstly. I agree with your statement that Superman was most interesting in his darker stories and when he had to face adversity. Something else needs to be brought to the story of Superman on film. The same old cliche Superman that most people know him as, is just boring. Totally on point with your last 4-5 sentences Dedpool, i agree totally!

    • Dedpool

      HE NEEDS SOMEONE TO FIGHT!!!That’s the biggest issue. Not since SUperman II has he had someone to challenge him. I don’t count that shitty Nuclear Man guy in Superman IV. I mean really. Is Brainiac, or Bizarro, or Metallo that hard to do? I mean really. Have Luthor try and clone Superman, and it fail and boom Bizarro. But it should be a creepy, dark Bizarro, not just a backwards speaking morron. I mean this guy should be backwards but it should be terrifying. Like his idea of saving people is to kill them…with his freeze vision or fire breath. Or do the metallo story, with Luthor discovering a new metal, and creating a robot body, and then one of his cronies is fatally injured in a heist during an altercation with SUpes. Luthor saves him by transfering his brain into the new body, with the intent on using the guys hatred of Supes to send him to kill him. Or Brianiac could be pretty much searching for the last kryptonian as he saw the rocket leave before the planet exploded, but has been too busy collecting otehr planets and information untl he gets to Earth where he realizes SUpes is infact his long lost query. Just some thoughts.

  • Edgarbojangels

    wow did you actually call “for the man who has everything” dark? you have got to be kidding me! if that is a dark story than my name isn’t edgar bojangels! and what is the side of superman that we dont usually see in “our worlds at war”? that story arc is weak sauce. Superman is not a dark character, if he was then he would take over the world. Superman just needs a really dark villain to help flesh his character out a little more. i agree with everything you said in your second post but could not disagree more with your first one

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      Okay not dark but for a kid’s cartoon it was kinda brutal. Him losing everything he’s ever wanted and then theat fight with Mongul. I mean damn. As for the “OWAW” thing, we got to see Supes at his lowest. He was tired, worried about his family, beaten (Several times), and finally had to put his pride aside to work with President Luthor to come up with some plan to end it all. People died (at the time), and yet Superman just kept going. I’m not saying it was by any means a great story, but I’d never seen a more detirmined and single minded Superman. And the paces he was put through are what I was really reffering to as being dark.I loved the part where he’s talking to someone, and all he can think about is how Zod broke his jaw. “HE BROKE MY JAW!!” For us that’s like “AND?” but this is Superman. No one’s broken his jaw before. They break their fists on his jaw. It was things like almost losing John Henry Irons, thinking he lost his father, Aquaman, and others. The fact that he may lose his home (again) as Maxima, and Starfire did. It was those things that put that story above the normal beat up the villain in the city story. I never said the character was dark but that sometimes the stories are dark, or darker than normal.

  • Edgarbojangels

    wow did you actually call “for the man who has everything” dark? you have got to be kidding me! if that is a dark story than my name isn’t edgar bojangels! and what is the side of superman that we dont usually see in “our worlds at war”? that story arc is weak sauce. Superman is not a dark character, if he was then he would take over the world. Superman just needs a really dark villain to help flesh his character out a little more. i agree with everything you said in your second post but could not disagree more with your first one

    • Dedpool

      Okay not dark but for a kid’s cartoon it was kinda brutal. Him losing everything he’s ever wanted and then theat fight with Mongul. I mean damn. As for the “OWAW” thing, we got to see Supes at his lowest. He was tired, worried about his family, beaten (Several times), and finally had to put his pride aside to work with President Luthor to come up with some plan to end it all. People died (at the time), and yet Superman just kept going. I’m not saying it was by any means a great story, but I’d never seen a more detirmined and single minded Superman. And the paces he was put through are what I was really reffering to as being dark.I loved the part where he’s talking to someone, and all he can think about is how Zod broke his jaw. “HE BROKE MY JAW!!” For us that’s like “AND?” but this is Superman. No one’s broken his jaw before. They break their fists on his jaw. It was things like almost losing John Henry Irons, thinking he lost his father, Aquaman, and others. The fact that he may lose his home (again) as Maxima, and Starfire did. It was those things that put that story above the normal beat up the villain in the city story. I never said the character was dark but that sometimes the stories are dark, or darker than normal.

  • CHACK

    A reboot for a rebbot which only came out 4 years ago are you kidding me?, a stupid idea, someone in marketing needs firing, producing something that’ll probably take 2 years to do will mean a 6 year gap between the films which for a rebbot is crazy.
    When people care more about the dollar incentive than they do the brand integrity its time to move on and Nolan is not going to want to be the “Superhero” guy for Warner Bros, a studio that can’t even get other areas of its business in order let alone the wealth of I.P it owns.

    • http://www.originalgeekspodcast.com/ Dedpool aka Jiinx

      “Superman Returns” wasn’t a reboot. It was firmly a sequel connecting to ther original films. Basically they were saying Superman III & IV didn’t happen. But Nolan isn’t attached to direct but produce. So probably gonna get a bunch of ideas together and then let the writers work it out. Just don’t let Goyer do it. As much as I loved Begins, he’d kill Superman.

  • CHACK

    A reboot for a rebbot which only came out 4 years ago are you kidding me?, a stupid idea, someone in marketing needs firing, producing something that’ll probably take 2 years to do will mean a 6 year gap between the films which for a rebbot is crazy.
    When people care more about the dollar incentive than they do the brand integrity its time to move on and Nolan is not going to want to be the “Superhero” guy for Warner Bros, a studio that can’t even get other areas of its business in order let alone the wealth of I.P it owns.

    • Dedpool

      “Superman Returns” wasn’t a reboot. It was firmly a sequel connecting to ther original films. Basically they were saying Superman III & IV didn’t happen. But Nolan isn’t attached to direct but produce. So probably gonna get a bunch of ideas together and then let the writers work it out. Just don’t let Goyer do it. As much as I loved Begins, he’d kill Superman.

  • http://www.richardsantos.com/ Rich

    I can’t believe Hollywoods bureaucracy! It’s worse than government! Please, no more reboots! I don’t actually consider “Batman Begins” or “Dark Knight” reboots because they were true to the character, unlike the previous Batman films. And while I respect Christopher Nolan very much for what he did, in my humble opinion, the Superman franschise does not need a reboot or go “darker” because it’s not what the basic character is about. But Superman can be dramatically improved & streamlined.

    Bryan Singer’s misstep in “Superman Returns” was not-so-much closely following the original Superman I & II films (which I am a fan of, btw…), but rather it lacked hardcore action, which is expected from an epic character like Superman. “SR” needed an outstanding, powerful super-villian that could challenge Superman in strength & resilience and go blow-to-blow with him. Despite “SR’s” flaws, now that the ‘cement has been poured’ (so-to-speak) a direct sequel can still be made in classic battle-royale fashion.

    Here’s a simple but effective formula: Bring back Routh (he did his best and has great potential), add a super-villian (like Doomsday or Braniac), kill Superman’s kid from “Superman Returns” (giving Superman the emotional rage & instinct to wreak havoc on the murderous villian who took his son’s life), ramp up the action 1000% (let ILM or WETA destroy Metropolis in a massive battle as in the “The Death of Superman” comic book), and watch how big the box office is. As for Bryan Singer, I think he did a fine job with “X2″ and I think is now well aware of what is expected of another Superman film, next time around. At the very least they should consider giving him another shot at delivering the goods. Keep in mind “Batman Begins” was about rebuilding the Batman franchise much like “Superman Returns” was. If they make the next Superman an ass-kicking, emotional, exciting, vibrant, well-crafted, action-packed rollercoaster-epic-of-ride summer film, it can be as successful as “Dark Knight” was.

  • http://www.richardsantos.com Rich

    I can’t believe Hollywoods bureaucracy! It’s worse than government! Please, no more reboots! I don’t actually consider “Batman Begins” or “Dark Knight” reboots because they were true to the character, unlike the previous Batman films. And while I respect Christopher Nolan very much for what he did, in my humble opinion, the Superman franschise does not need a reboot or go “darker” because it’s not what the basic character is about. But Superman can be dramatically improved & streamlined.

    Bryan Singer’s misstep in “Superman Returns” was not-so-much closely following the original Superman I & II films (which I am a fan of, btw…), but rather it lacked hardcore action, which is expected from an epic character like Superman. “SR” needed an outstanding, powerful super-villian that could challenge Superman in strength & resilience and go blow-to-blow with him. Despite “SR’s” flaws, now that the ‘cement has been poured’ (so-to-speak) a direct sequel can still be made in classic battle-royale fashion.

    Here’s a simple but effective formula: Bring back Routh (he did his best and has great potential), add a super-villian (like Doomsday or Braniac), kill Superman’s kid from “Superman Returns” (giving Superman the emotional rage & instinct to wreak havoc on the murderous villian who took his son’s life), ramp up the action 1000% (let ILM or WETA destroy Metropolis in a massive battle as in the “The Death of Superman” comic book), and watch how big the box office is. As for Bryan Singer, I think he did a fine job with “X2″ and I think is now well aware of what is expected of another Superman film, next time around. At the very least they should consider giving him another shot at delivering the goods. Keep in mind “Batman Begins” was about rebuilding the Batman franchise much like “Superman Returns” was. If they make the next Superman an ass-kicking, emotional, exciting, vibrant, well-crafted, action-packed rollercoaster-epic-of-ride summer film, it can be as successful as “Dark Knight” was.