Zach Snyder Wants Frank Miller’s Advice on How to do the Superman/Batman Movie


Man of Steel (2013) Movie Image

Will it be Superman and Batman, or Superman versus Batman? Mind you, not that it really matters. They’ll meet, they’ll probably fight, then they’ll team up to battle the real villains. That’s pretty normal for a comic book clash of superheroes, and I don’t suspect it’ll be much different for their cinematic counterparts.

What is interesting, though, is that Zack Snyder, who directed the Superman reboot “Man of Steel” and has been tapped to direct the forthcoming Batman/Superman meeting, has sought out comic book writer/artist/director Frank Miller for a little chat. Whatever will they talk about?

The Dark Knight Return Comic Book CoverAccording to a source close to Miller, apparently Miller didn’t even know about the Comic Con announcement until it happened:

Frank had no idea the announcement in San Diego was going to happen so it did come as a surprise. He’s going to be meeting up with Zach in the next few days to go over the plans for the Superman film so things should be clearer after that.

If you’ve been following the news at all, you know that Harry Lennix (who played a character in Snyder’s “Man of Steel”) read a passage from Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns” limited series comic book over at Comic Con during the announcement, in which Bats had the all-powerful Superman by the throat. Some inferred that to mean the Snyder movie would be something along the lines of “Returns”.

And now Snyder is actually meeting with Miller, which would seem to further add to that idea.

Or maybe Snyder just wants some advice. The two have worked together previously on “300”, after all. Snyder adapted that movie from Miller’s comic book, too, and they were working together on the sequel for years before Snyder stepped aside to let Noam Murro take over.

In any case, if you’re interested in finding more about “The Dark Knight Returns”, but don’t want to be caught reading a — gasp! — comic book, D.C./Warner Bros. recently adapted the storyline into a two-part animated movie called “Batman: The Dark Knight Returns”. It’s about 90% faithful, with a few changes, and is a good primer on what, perhaps, Snyder is planning for 2015. Maybe.

Batman and Superman in Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns

Via : The Independent

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  • Dedpool

    I think he wants to know what made Miller turn Superman into a government stooge. OR he wants to know what Miller thinks that batman would think of Superman in a first meeting. I personally think they should look into the current Superman/Batman run that has their first meeting to figure out the two heroes thoughts on one another. I think Goyer, Snyder and Nolan (Jonathan not Chris) could write a good story without Miller’s advice though.

  • Lexavi80

    Most likely is going to be:

    Batman/Superman: Mediocre Generic Title

    Note: Batman goes first because he’s the real push for audiences to see the film.

    • Anubis

      They should call it “Worlds Finest”

      • Dedpool

        I have a feeling that will eventually be the subtitle if not the full on title.

  • yaweeeh

    i think that they should fight in the introduction of the movie (30 first mins.) and superman would see batman as a villain, late, they meet more personaly or something and superman has to be the principal character, not batman (although i love bats) or something like that

    • Dedpool

      Okay here’s some story ideas I think would work to a point.
      We take a nod from Smallville (And the Superman/Batman comics) and have a meteor shower hit earth. Star Labs, LexCorp Science Division, and Wayne Tech all get samples of the mysterious alien rock. During the shower a plane is hit and Superman has to save it but a chunk is caugh in the plane wing and is slowly draining his powers. He realizes this and wraps some of it in some lead lined metal and takes it to the Fortress for examination. Meanhwile Batman has seen the footage of the rescue and notes his depowered state. Superman realizing this could be used against him decides to try and get rid of it all. LexCorp is trying to use it as a power source and has also been hired by the government to come up with a failsafe should Superman turn rogue. The Metal-0 project is begun, headed by Joh Henry Irons. Wayne Tech has discovered that the element gives off a radiation that effects humans as well, and when mixed with other chemicals can give abilities, but is addictive and can become harmful. Wayne tech scraps the project but not before a spy for Maximillian Zeus steals a large sample and copies the information. Maxy Zeus then used the chemical compound on himself, giving him super strength and lightning abilities. He quickly starts a campaign to denounce the city’s reliance on a vigilante, and that he is the new hero of Gotham. Meanwhile the Metal-0 project has gone awry, the radiation from the kryptonite has caused the test subject to violently act out. Superman faces off against him and barely survives. He creates a suit and goes about collecting all known samples of Kryptonite, leading to a confrontation with Batman and Wayne tech. After the misunderstanding is cleared up, Zeus arrives saying he will destroy them both and be the hero of the world after the world see’s them as threats. Metal-0 shows up and it becomes a two on two battle. In the end we find out Luthor sabotaged the design for the Metal-0 project causing corben to lose his mind in order to justify a design by himself.

  • ErickKwon

    First of all, I’d pay double the IMAX 3D upcharge if we get to hear the new Batman utter: “I’m the Goddamn Batman!”

    Secondly, hope Snyder, Goyer, and Nolan ignore anything Miller has to say about Superman himself.

    • Nix

      Haha, yeah, ol Frank ain’t such a big fan of the Big Blue Boy Scout.

      • ErickKwon

        It’s not so much that he’s a fan, but he just doesn’t understand him. I remember years ago reading an interview with Alan Moore where he said he wasn’t a fan of Superman either, but Moore wrote arguably two of the best Superman stories ever and proved that he at least understood the character

        • Dedpool

          Well said. Miller if you ask me has gone off the deep end a bit. Dark Knight Strikes Again was another one where he completely turned a character on their ear with Dick Grayson. But I digress, everything is specualtion at this point, hell the meeting could amount to SNyder going “Yeah we won’t be going with that take.”

  • BoomTube77

    Ok, ppl, don’t bash my virtual head in ok..but, I think this is a horrible idea for a MOS sequel. Really it should be a stand alone film set in this new DC cinematic universe. Now don’t get me wrong I really want to see a Superman/Batman film! Have been waiting forever for one. I just don’t think it’s a great premise for a sequel. It kind of feels rushed just to set up ground work to a Justice League film. It’s certainly not the route I would have gone. For one, how is Batman supposed to take on Supes without that old famous green rock (unless they introduce that cheesy element). As cool and badass and intelligent as Bats is, he still can not take on Kal. No “man” can go toe to toe with Supes. Not even with tons of gadgets. If Zod couldn’t kill Superman, there is absolutely no way Bats can. And besides are they really expecting us to view Bruce as a “villain. Sure, have them butt heads and do some sort of battle (it would be fun to see what Bats pulls out of his ass against the Man of Tomorrow)…..ultimately Bruce would lose. Now, I really like Batman, it’s just he can’t challenge Superman in a fight without Kryptonite, period.

    • Dedpool

      I don’t think this will be a true sequel to MOS but more like a Spinoff to introduce the new Batman, without having to do another origin film AND establish a shared universe. This way they can do as many easter eggs as they want as it builds towards other films and an eventual Justice League movie. Se my idea below on how they could spin this (mind you that’s just one possible idea and i have others) .
      As for the Batman vs Superman debate. there is none. Even Batman himself has said he can’t beat Superman without Kryptonite. Hell when Modern Dat Bats fought Superman in “Hush” he had a kryptonite ring, explosives, sonics, and more and it was all diversionary. If Superman wanted Batman dead he’d be dead. End of story. Even with Kryptonite, he could snap his neck before he was truly weakened. The only reason Bruce EVER survives their confrontations is becasue Clark is holding back.

      • Boomtube77

        Dedpool, you just Made a friend! Lol.