Zack Snyder Confirms Alternate Watchmen Ending

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I’m not sure how much of a SPOILER tag or warning I should put with this post, since if you’re trolling the Internet looking for movie news, I’m inclined to believe you don’t care about stumbling across spoilers. But just in case, I’m going to tell you to STEER CLEAR of this post if you don’t want to know the ending of Zack Snyder’s upcoming live-action adaptation of Alan Moore’s “Watchmen” comic book, because this post will tell you exactly that. At this point, this is no longer a rumor, because Zack Snyder himself has come out and confirmed everything that was previously reported here. Once again, this is your last chance to turn back…

Okay, so you’re still here. Read on, then.

In an interview with Dark Horizon, director Zack Snyder has confirmed that the original graphic novel’s squid-heavy ending has been replaced with one that used nuclear detonations instead, and that there is only one ending, and not the multiple ending that some have theorized.

A few online fanboys have been disappointed by reports from the test screening of the changed ending. Specifically a key moment in the graphic novel revolves around the disastrous repercussions of a ‘giant alien squid’ being teleported into New York City, an event that is changed in the movie (there’s still a disaster but no squid). Snyder says “The fans, god love ‘em, they’re all up in arms about the squid. What they should be up in arms about are things like shooting the pregnant woman, ‘God is real and he’s American’, whether THAT’s in the movie. That’s my point of view, maybe I’m crazy.” He does admit that the ending scenes with the main characters remain, as does the ‘moral imperative’ of the comic’s ending.

What about talk he did some ‘squid’ stuff in pre-production? “Well… I don’t want to say yes or no (laughs). The squid was not in the movie when I got the script, the squid was never in any draft that I saw. My point is only that there was this elegant solution to the squid problem that I kind of embraced. I’m a fan of the thing as much as anyone, I was saying what are we going to do about this before I even read the script.” Was that solution multiple atomic explosions as some have said? “I won’t say exactly but… Dr. Manhattan has a certain energy signature, it’s clearly his thing…so you know.” He also shot down reports of multiple endings – they only filmed the one.

So there you go. From the man himself — the squid with the psychic brain is gone, and there is only the one ending. Basically, no one had been able to fit the squid into the movie scripts, probably because, well, it was kind of a stupid idea in the first place. Sorry, Alan Moore, you’re a genius and junk, but sometimes you’re pretty wacky, you gotta admit.

Anyways, here’s something else: according to Snyder, his version of “Watchmen” will run 2 hours 42 minutes including credits. Wow. That’s a long time, but I’m guessing The Powers That Be didn’t demand Snyder cut it down because of the success of Nolan’s “The Dark Knight”, which ran nearly as long and still made a gazillion bucks at the box office.

In any case, here’s a new poster for “Watchmen” that was just released, featuring everyone’s favorite happy-go-lucky vigilante, Rorschach:

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  • Calliope

    Oh, you’re fucking kidding.

    I simply cannot abide Doctor Manhattan and his “certain energy signature” as the big enemy. No, No, No. That’s beyond wrong, wrong, wrong.

    The squid acted as an alien invader, which was Ozymandias’ whole point: alien forces attack Earth, therefore Earth must unite. Doctor Manhattan is not an alien force, as the whole world has accepted his existence. You can’t unify a people against something they already know exists, regardless of the extent of the damage.

    The familiar doesn’t inspire any unity, whereas the unfamiliar does. If one kid is allergic to peanut butter in a class, does the whole class abandon peanut butter? No. Peanut butter is familiar, therefore there is no need to unify against the legume, despite any damage it may have caused. One kid allergic to a KiwiBananaOrange, does the whole class abandon it? Yes. It’s an unusual thing to be allergic to peanut butter, as peanut butter is a staple of everyday life now, much like Doctor Manhattan in the alternative 1985. However, if something unfamiliar inflicts damage, there is unity against it. Doctor Manhattan becoming the “enemy” wouldn’t unify the world, simply because people are accustomed to him in that time and place.

    It just doesn’t work, and totally negates the purpose of Watchmen, whether it’s intentional or not (the negation). Yes, Doctor Manhattan was bigger than all of them, but he cannot unify the world by violent and deadly means. Doctor Manhattan is like peanut butter, a gun, or a tub full of bath water, a staple of life that can be deadly on occasion but doesn’t inspire unity for the losses it may cause. People still eat pb & j, fire bullets and bathe regularly, despite any negative consequences. In a world where Doctor Manhattan is accepted as a fact of life, what is there to say violent actions attributed to him would cause global unity?

    What the fuck happened?

  • Calliope

    Oh, you’re fucking kidding.

    I simply cannot abide Doctor Manhattan and his “certain energy signature” as the big enemy. No, No, No. That’s beyond wrong, wrong, wrong.

    The squid acted as an alien invader, which was Ozymandias’ whole point: alien forces attack Earth, therefore Earth must unite. Doctor Manhattan is not an alien force, as the whole world has accepted his existence. You can’t unify a people against something they already know exists, regardless of the extent of the damage.

    The familiar doesn’t inspire any unity, whereas the unfamiliar does. If one kid is allergic to peanut butter in a class, does the whole class abandon peanut butter? No. Peanut butter is familiar, therefore there is no need to unify against the legume, despite any damage it may have caused. One kid allergic to a KiwiBananaOrange, does the whole class abandon it? Yes. It’s an unusual thing to be allergic to peanut butter, as peanut butter is a staple of everyday life now, much like Doctor Manhattan in the alternative 1985. However, if something unfamiliar inflicts damage, there is unity against it. Doctor Manhattan becoming the “enemy” wouldn’t unify the world, simply because people are accustomed to him in that time and place.

    It just doesn’t work, and totally negates the purpose of Watchmen, whether it’s intentional or not (the negation). Yes, Doctor Manhattan was bigger than all of them, but he cannot unify the world by violent and deadly means. Doctor Manhattan is like peanut butter, a gun, or a tub full of bath water, a staple of life that can be deadly on occasion but doesn’t inspire unity for the losses it may cause. People still eat pb & j, fire bullets and bathe regularly, despite any negative consequences. In a world where Doctor Manhattan is accepted as a fact of life, what is there to say violent actions attributed to him would cause global unity?

    What the fuck happened?

  • http://www.abietto.net/ abietto

    I must admit I agree almost completely with the comments already submitted here. If this is not a joke by the crew and the director, a “red herring” of some sort, I think the whole red-sand castle will fall apart. We have major problems here.
    1) The main motivation of the Comedian. It was a practical joke. Professional jealousy. Remember? None of that in this ending. But this goes much deeper.
    2) Ozymandias would not have any needs for an entire island for “nuclear weapons” or “strange blue energy dr. M weapons”. He already has his antarctic base for his many scientific and secret experiments. So… If the ending changes, basically you woudn’t have the island. Without the island…
    3) You wouldn’t have artists, musicians, sculptors, engineers, poets all gathered together on that island to create an alternative form of life. You woudn’t have the psych brain, so you wouldn’t have genetic research (that Ozy does only for that purpose in the first place) and so you wouldn’t have
    4) Bubastis and
    5) The disappearance of the comin book writer and so…
    6) No Tales of the Black Freighter (it has no purpose in the economy of the story, it is not justified anymore)
    Plus, all the plot problems that Calliope pointed out, absolutely true to the last word. Watchmen is realistic but it is, after all, a realistic *super-hero comic*. Let’s not forget that. Realistic doesn’t mean “real” and coherent doesn’t mean you can’t have any different rule in your alternate universe. Let’s take a look at the Lord of the Rings: it is realistic and coherent but surely it’s not “real”.
    7) The giant squid is silly? Maybe in the comic. Have you seen Cloverfield? Imagine something like that big and terrifying, teleported dead in the center of Manhattan. What’s the problem with the psychic powers? All Veidt program is centered around the development of these powers and he possess some psych, anyway, since he can see the future (a bit) just staring at a giant bunch of tv-screens. If there’s no psychic powers you wouldn’t have that room in Karnak, it has no purpose anymore in the economy of the story. It is just “cool”, but non meaningful.
    When you decide to adapt a great work of literature like Watchmen, you should always consider that the author spent time and effort trying to intertwine carefully every single element and detail. Instead of reproducing the picture of the Minutemen in 1940 maniacally, Snyder should have thought about all those things. I thought about them, and I’m no comic book writer, no screenplay writer and no director…

  • http://www.abietto.net abietto

    I must admit I agree almost completely with the comments already submitted here. If this is not a joke by the crew and the director, a “red herring” of some sort, I think the whole red-sand castle will fall apart. We have major problems here.
    1) The main motivation of the Comedian. It was a practical joke. Professional jealousy. Remember? None of that in this ending. But this goes much deeper.
    2) Ozymandias would not have any needs for an entire island for “nuclear weapons” or “strange blue energy dr. M weapons”. He already has his antarctic base for his many scientific and secret experiments. So… If the ending changes, basically you woudn’t have the island. Without the island…
    3) You wouldn’t have artists, musicians, sculptors, engineers, poets all gathered together on that island to create an alternative form of life. You woudn’t have the psych brain, so you wouldn’t have genetic research (that Ozy does only for that purpose in the first place) and so you wouldn’t have
    4) Bubastis and
    5) The disappearance of the comin book writer and so…
    6) No Tales of the Black Freighter (it has no purpose in the economy of the story, it is not justified anymore)
    Plus, all the plot problems that Calliope pointed out, absolutely true to the last word. Watchmen is realistic but it is, after all, a realistic *super-hero comic*. Let’s not forget that. Realistic doesn’t mean “real” and coherent doesn’t mean you can’t have any different rule in your alternate universe. Let’s take a look at the Lord of the Rings: it is realistic and coherent but surely it’s not “real”.
    7) The giant squid is silly? Maybe in the comic. Have you seen Cloverfield? Imagine something like that big and terrifying, teleported dead in the center of Manhattan. What’s the problem with the psychic powers? All Veidt program is centered around the development of these powers and he possess some psych, anyway, since he can see the future (a bit) just staring at a giant bunch of tv-screens. If there’s no psychic powers you wouldn’t have that room in Karnak, it has no purpose anymore in the economy of the story. It is just “cool”, but non meaningful.
    When you decide to adapt a great work of literature like Watchmen, you should always consider that the author spent time and effort trying to intertwine carefully every single element and detail. Instead of reproducing the picture of the Minutemen in 1940 maniacally, Snyder should have thought about all those things. I thought about them, and I’m no comic book writer, no screenplay writer and no director…

  • A!

    Wow I don’t think Snyder thought this through at all. This ending takes away from the genius of Ozzy and the fact that Dr. Manhattan is on another level from humans and is finally acting upon it(by leaving).

    I agree with just about everything already mentioned. I thought the whole point of the alien invasion/attack scare being that much of a threat and uniting the world is because Ozzy had already set up Dr. Manhattan causing him to leave so there’d be no all powerful being to stop the aliens. Basically I’m saying you can’t set up a mans exile just to turn around and make him the enemy. I know he was basically in GOD-mode and no longer has those gut reaction emotions that normal humans have but I believe even Osterman would’ve at least exposed Vedit and beat down any country trying to actually unite against him in that scenario.

    I must ask exactly how does it end then? Does Dr. Manhattan just get fed up with the stupidity of humanity and just leave? And Rorschach do they still kill him? Is he still fooled and just tries to attack Dr. Manhattan? This alternate ending also takes away from the genius of Ozzy and how he thinks of himself a hero/savior but in truth becomes a perfect super villain.

    Also as said the whole Black Freighter sub plot is useless now. The two stories both involved an ironic cruel joke. Man needlessly kills civilians after believing that his town was in danger and he would need to save/avenge them parallels Ozzy killing millions and scaring the world to come together thinking he would be saving the world.

    I don’t see how there could be an alternate ending that could equally tie in all of the themes and messages of the story.

  • A!

    Wow I don’t think Snyder thought this through at all. This ending takes away from the genius of Ozzy and the fact that Dr. Manhattan is on another level from humans and is finally acting upon it(by leaving).

    I agree with just about everything already mentioned. I thought the whole point of the alien invasion/attack scare being that much of a threat and uniting the world is because Ozzy had already set up Dr. Manhattan causing him to leave so there’d be no all powerful being to stop the aliens. Basically I’m saying you can’t set up a mans exile just to turn around and make him the enemy. I know he was basically in GOD-mode and no longer has those gut reaction emotions that normal humans have but I believe even Osterman would’ve at least exposed Vedit and beat down any country trying to actually unite against him in that scenario.

    I must ask exactly how does it end then? Does Dr. Manhattan just get fed up with the stupidity of humanity and just leave? And Rorschach do they still kill him? Is he still fooled and just tries to attack Dr. Manhattan? This alternate ending also takes away from the genius of Ozzy and how he thinks of himself a hero/savior but in truth becomes a perfect super villain.

    Also as said the whole Black Freighter sub plot is useless now. The two stories both involved an ironic cruel joke. Man needlessly kills civilians after believing that his town was in danger and he would need to save/avenge them parallels Ozzy killing millions and scaring the world to come together thinking he would be saving the world.

    I don’t see how there could be an alternate ending that could equally tie in all of the themes and messages of the story.

  • Floyd The Barber

    I think I can live with the switchout of energy bombs for the squid as long as Dr Manhattan isn’t in cahoots with Ozymandias. If they put Dr. Manhattan IN on Ozy’s plan it changes the WHOLE POINT of the story.

  • Floyd The Barber

    I think I can live with the switchout of energy bombs for the squid as long as Dr Manhattan isn’t in cahoots with Ozymandias. If they put Dr. Manhattan IN on Ozy’s plan it changes the WHOLE POINT of the story.

  • Scorpio

    This is crap. Besides this means that all the super hero`s including viedt will be outlaws again. If they had kept with the original ending then earth would need the hero`s and Dr Manhattan to help and it had a much more emotional feel.

    “I think I can live with the switchout of energy bombs for the squid as long as Dr Manhattan isn’t in cahoots with Ozymandias. If they put Dr. Manhattan IN on Ozy’s plan it changes the WHOLE POINT of the story”

    LOL

    That is exactly what happens in the story. Only Dr Manhattan doesnt know he is helping Ozy in his plot for evil. He believes he is helping to create a new alternative fuel (Damn Eco-film) Besides in the comic only a few million were killed in the films billions of people are killed. Rosarch is killed by Dr Manhattan after he is going to kill Ozy. Dr Manhattan and laurie leave and go to another galaxy. Nite-owl goes into full retirement oh and did i mention that the world is united against Dr Manhattan and everyone who supported him.

  • Scorpio

    This is crap. Besides this means that all the super hero`s including viedt will be outlaws again. If they had kept with the original ending then earth would need the hero`s and Dr Manhattan to help and it had a much more emotional feel.

    “I think I can live with the switchout of energy bombs for the squid as long as Dr Manhattan isn’t in cahoots with Ozymandias. If they put Dr. Manhattan IN on Ozy’s plan it changes the WHOLE POINT of the story”

    LOL

    That is exactly what happens in the story. Only Dr Manhattan doesnt know he is helping Ozy in his plot for evil. He believes he is helping to create a new alternative fuel (Damn Eco-film) Besides in the comic only a few million were killed in the films billions of people are killed. Rosarch is killed by Dr Manhattan after he is going to kill Ozy. Dr Manhattan and laurie leave and go to another galaxy. Nite-owl goes into full retirement oh and did i mention that the world is united against Dr Manhattan and everyone who supported him.